You know what is really stupid? Generalising and assumptions and all that shit.

99.99999%, if not more, of the entire human population are stupid and instantly loathable. But the idea that gay men are any less stupid is just...well, stupid.

What forkboy said to be honest, I don't judge a man til I know him. Over here in the UK, the amount of meatheads are - surprisingly actually - considerably less I'm guessing, so 80% of men I actually meet are actually fine - hetero or homo.

That's not very nice now is it Troy? How would you like it if I sat here and said 'My opinion, as a hetrosexual, is that I hate just about 99% of gay men. They're stupid and usually gay and I hate them.' If I said that, I'd be done in for being homophobic. Your being heterophobic.

There is always that one percent of homosexuals that just ruin it for everyone else.

I am generally heterophobic. I know that.

You had me rolling on this.

No I just found it funny how you said you hate people.

Now I'm even more of a friendless curmudgeon than you, but even I don't believe that about humanity. I actually believe people, taken on their own, the majority of them are actually at least okay.

I'm sorry but please stop trying to prove that Cam is stupid and just let it be. Please.

Frockboy is not stupid, he's just... trying to think of the right word... Unbelievably stubborn. Once he has an opinion, it's more or less set in stone. I know because I'm the same way, just not quite to the same extreme.

When it comes to homosexuality, an oft-raised argument is that it's not natural. Maybe it's not, but neither is wearing clothes or living in warm comfortable accommodation. Except actually homosexuality is an actual natural occurrence. So it's actually more natural to be gay than to own electric lights.