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Offline Gildermershina  
#1 Posted : 25 May 2011 04:54:00(UTC)
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FOREWORD

Hello and welcome to the first in a series of profiles on the various bands in the Mongolbord Surfingturd family. We start with Mana Gunray Serpentine, who originally founded the label to release their otherwise unmarketable music. MGS are a fairly mysterious group, usually very difficult to pin down in interviews and press appearances. As a collective, they see all aspects of their group as some level of performance, spinning half-truths and sewing seeds of confusion to allay the cult of personality. This band is serious, though about what it is hard to tell.

Thankfully they've granted us a little more access to their unique musical world, to discover their origins, and maybe a little of their intentions. We hope you enjoy this quick look back at the band that made all of "this" possible.

Mongolbord Surfingturd


MONGOLBORD SURFINGTURD Band Profile:

The new logo, this time Kind of Blue.



MEMBERS

Terrence Forrest Crowell
guitars, electronics, percussion, voice
(ex-Sleepfortress, ex-Thousand Foot Devilworm)

Ivan Isler Ilasko
synth, piano, noise, electronics, installations, percussion, voice
(Black Iris, ex-Boot Viper, Lamprey the Tit, Out of Your Mouth Like Vomit)

Quentin Uderick Iain Phong
lead voice, lights, noise electronics, lead percussion
(ex-Sleepfortress)

Lance Theodore Heron
bassoon, clarinet, brass, bass, guitars, electronics, percussion, voice
(Amun-Zazu, ex-Urmonotheismus)

Albany Eglibez-Tortolez
cello, bass, guitars, electronics, percussion, voice, costumes
(ex-Werewolves in a Warehouse)



BIOGRAPHY


Mana Gunray Serpentine, also known as MGS for short, or M.G.S. Institute for Mammalian Aetiology and Post-Hypnosis Field Research for long, were formed in Calgery, Alberta in 2006 from the ashes of long-running experimental psychedelic post-punk collective Sleepfortress, well-known in Alberta for their heavily improvised audience-participation free-for-all concerts. Following that band's separation, lead members Terrence Crowell and Quentin Phong quickly drew up intricate plans for a new creative ensemble to focus on complex electroacoustic compositions blending musique concrète, rock, jazz and performance art. This new group would allow a more structured venue for improvisation, and would draw from the deep pool of local musical talent.

They soon recruited local multi-instrumentalists Lance Heron of experimental wind quintet Amun-Zazu and Albany Eglibez-Tortolez formerly of renowned punk jazz group Werewolves in a Warehouse, before sending an invitation out to renowned Montana-based installation artist Ivan Ilasko who quickly accepted and relocated north of the border. The band then set into a long Albertan winter of rehearsals and sound-combing. The fruits of these sessions were on display in a series of Albertan performance spaces the following Spring under the name Mana Gunray Serpentine. Already the band were structuring their performances around a single thematic arc, expressing complex socio-political ideas in the form of noisy electroacoustics and irreverent costumes and stage-design.

At this time the group also set up a label, ostensibly to put out the first MGS record. Mongolbord Surfingturd was founded in Calgary by Quentin Phong, and quickly began putting out physical releases by a number of self-funded local artists including alt-country hero Strongarmed Colostomy Joe.

MGS quickly gained a reputation for their complex themed performances, mixing lights, intricate stage design, video projection and music into a musical theatre of the absurd. Montsalvat was recorded that Summer, using ideas refined from those shows, and released on Mongolbord Surfingturd with catalogue number bord01. The album delved thematically into a hidden history of fringe-psychotherapy and underground scientific societies, from which the band's name is drawn, amongst other things. Montsalvat also establishes the band's technique of editing together long-form collages of music out of shorter component parts, which vary in length and style from a spoken-word sample lasting a matter of seconds, to exhausting twenty-minute noise-grooves.

Aux-Drawn and Quartz drew heavily on the linear nature of music, and the theme of time itself. Again, it was developed in a live context, on their first national tour. Featuring thematic techniques such as time-stretching, granulation and sound elements such as a whole room full of close-miked clocks, Aux-Drawn and Quartz pulls apart traditional notions of composition and reassembles them into fascinating new shapes. Notes are artificially elongated and stretched apart, as if frozen in time, or caught on the event horizon of a black hole.

For their next major tour MGS experimented with these time-based themes through the medium of light and dark, exploring ideas of negative space, dark energy and entropy. The band performed mostly in darkness and utilised a specially designed array of sound-triggered lights and light-triggered sounds to bring to life their most vibrant material yet. The band also released a limited EP for this tour, Re: You, featuring a sneak preview of long-awaited album #3.

Unlike previous works, their third full-length Carnifex was developed predominantly in the studio, indeed using the recording and editing facilities as an instrument in their own right. Carnifex is in all senses about cutting – from the literal cutting of circular-saws and knives, to figurative cutting with digital and analogue editing. The album is in some ways an absurd and abstract deconstruction of hip-hop, with an emphasis on carefully edited spoken-word and loops.

MGS are now on tour with an all-new programme divided in four distinct sections, which will likely form the basis of their fourth full-length recording.


DISCOGRAPHY

ALBUMS

I redesigned this album art a little to kind of standardise the design of all the MGS albums, and work in the MGS logo. The Montsalvat logo in the centre is a reference to a little known fact: the MGS in the band's extended name does not stand for Mana Gunray Serpentine, but for Montsalvat Galenic Science, a fictional research facility in Montana who use this sun pyramid design as their logo.
I: Montsalvat (bord01)
[10 tracks, Running time: 67:20]

This art is entirely new, other than the colour palette, because the original was kind of crappy. The city in the picture is apparently Calgary. Note the MGS2 logo.
II: Aux-Drawn & Quartz (bord09)
[11 tracks, Running time: 58:09]

This one I just changed the text positioning to match the redesigns. The MGS3 logo I came up with for this inspired me to go back and incorporate the MGS logo into the previous art
3: Carnifex (bord25)
[6 tracks, Running time: 75:42]



EPS/SINGLES

1.1: Ham (bord02)
1.2: Ibis (bord03)
1.3: Rust (bord04)

2.1: Ship (bord10)
2.2: Bastard/2.3: Bitch (bord11)

Re: You (bord19)

3.1: Sleep (bord28)


COMPILATIONS

Shield-Eaters and World Leaders Have Many Likes Alike (bord30)

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Offline Gildermershina  
#2 Posted : 26 May 2011 07:20:12(UTC)
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INTERVIEW


We recently sat down with Terrence Forrest Crowell of Mana Gunray Serpentine, to catch up with all the fun happenings in the world of avant-rock performance art. We say sat down, it was more of an email thing. We were sitting down, he might have been standing up. It doesn't matter. We did have a little correspondence, back and forth a bit. You might even call it an interview.




So five years, and three albums in, is there still fuel in the Mana Gunray Serpentine engine?

I think so. I think there's a lot we can still do in this format, a lot to room to explore and new things to discover. We've barely scratched the surface in terms of the ideas we have been working on from the beginning.


But some would contend there's only so much you can say before you start repeating yourselves. Do you think there's any danger of that happening to you?

I reject that philosophy for two reasons. Firstly, everything has on some level already been said by someone else. Even if you're not repeating yourself, you're probably repeating someone else. Secondly, and more importantly, the way this music operates is entirely contingent on context. Everything is set in a time and/or a space, everything has some relationship to its surroundings and vice versa.

Writers know how something as simple as a well-placed comma can completely change the meaning of a sentence. It's the same with music. After all, in western music there's only so many combinations of those 12 basic notes, and if you apply standard western tradition to that the combinations become even more limited - yet almost the entire history of western music is based on that system. Obviously in eastern music there's notes between the notes...

That all being said, we do try to avoid repeating ourselves too specifically. There are ideas we touch back on constantly for sake of establishing a convention. It's nice to go drifting, just as long as you're tethered to something strong at the core.



Do you ever worry that your music is not being understood, or interpreted correctly.

Yes and no. Obviously everything we do is driven by intent, a selfish artistic intent, but at the same time we build ambiguities into the work. Again, to return to the idea of context, part of the context of the music is the listener. The listener is part of the loop, and as with any good piece of art, their interpretation fills in the gaps to make a greater whole. It's a richer experience that way. It is frustrating though that the interpretations some people bring are politically charged. At the end of the day, we're not really in the business of telling people what to think.


Would you like to tell us a little more about the origins of the band?

Well originally Quentin and myself were part of a group called Sleepfortress, which had a vaguely similar vibe, but was probably more "conventional" of a band, music-wise. That band was probably a little too energetic to really stay in one piece, so it eventually fell apart. We decided to start a new group to explore other ideas we'd had that would absolutely not have worked in the context of that band. We really wanted to work with a certain type of people on this, people who would be dedicated to the vision we had, but also be strong enough to shape that vision going forward. In particular, we knew we wanted Ivan Ilasko, whose solo work we are huge fans of. He also plays with some of the guys from Plague Techtonics in a band called Black Iris, who we've brought on tour with us. He's opened us up to a whole other circle of musicians and influences.

Lance we knew going back to Urmonotheismus who played with Sleepfortress a couple times. He's a real musician, not that the rest of us aren't, but he really is a proper trained jazz musician. Lucky for us he's interested in the same weird things we are. Albany Eglibez-Tortolez we knew from Werewolves in a Warehouse who were probably the biggest band in Calgary for a long time. There's something really positive about having that female perspective as part of the group, giving us a wider pool to draw from. We were really lucky to get those guys together, because what we have now is so much stronger than the sum of its parts. It's taken on a life of its own that we never imagined it would when we first floated the idea.



There's a lot of discussion in the fan community about your song titles, what relevance do they have to the music as a whole?

Again, that's a matter for interpretation, but yes, the titles have meaning to us and play as much a part as anything else.


Then would you like to comment on some of them specifically?

I guess. Which ones?


Well, there are a lot of references to rape, and various plays on a "rape tape" and rats.

Well there is an example where we are specifically returning to a common idea that speaks to the very core of the project. We're big fans of language, and we enjoy playing around with it wherever we can. Ideas of cycles of repetition and symmetry are fascinating to us. Rat, rate, rape, tape, tap, rap, rat... It's amazing what you can do by changing one letter at a time. Musically you can change a note in a scale, change from ascending to descending, modulate in time... There's a great amount of variation in those core ideas, and we express that in the titles as well as the music. We also have a sense of humour, and for some reason it seems more natural for us to express it that way than musically.


You use a lot of unusual instruments and techniques in your music. Do you ever feel like you're a slave to the equipment? That in some ways it's as important as the musicians behind it?

We like to squeeze the most out of the instruments and the equipment we have available. We don't actually use that wide a range of instruments so much as sound-sources. Obviously there are a lot of pre-recorded elements, field recordings that we cannot replicate in performance, and in many ways what and how we perform live is dictated by these constraints. Part of the definition for electroacoustic music is that the sound source isn't obvious. As long as we're able to coax an interesting noise out of something, we'll probably find a use for it somewhere.


You often have a lot of different instruments and devices on stage, what if something went wrong at a vital point during a show?

Again, when we perform live we build in a lot of structured improvisation so that we're not reliant on one specific device at any one time. The dangerous possibility with the amount of things we have with us on stage is that we'll lose structure and cohesion, and the whole thing will fall apart. That's why we use backing recordings, and software, to keep us on track, to give us the necessary framework. We're fortunate to have a couple technical guys, Tom Francis and Jon Kazuri, who keep on top of that stuff for us, and who probably deserve as much credit as we do for keeping things on track out there in the world.


Is there ever a desire to strip back what you're doing, maybe to a less demanding level?

On our parts, no not really. What we do is certainly demanding, and often difficult to execute live in an unknown room, but it's really rewarding when it works. Even when it doesn't completely work, it's still a thrill to experience that parts that do. We love happy accidents.


We know you've been working on some new ideas for the next recording, anything you'd like to tell us?

Well ironically enough, this one is more conventionally musical. We've been performing it on a short local tour, kind of a live rehearsal situation. The basic idea is split into four distinct sections, each with a different mood that together form an even greater musical arc. There's some information we hand out about it beforehand, kind of a formal programme because of the way it's structured.

We weren't trying to, but it ended up that each of the pieces developed in a fairly straightforward way, and there's a lot less of the quick-cut hard jumps we've used previously. There's even a little something resembling a "song" in there, that kind of sounds like early Brian Eno.



Do you know what it's called yet?

Yes, but it will probably change. All I can say is that it may or may not have something to do with sharks. And possibly rape.


Well, thanks for your time Terrance. I'm surprised by the amount of information we were able to get out of you.

No probalo.
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#3 Posted : 26 May 2011 07:57:45(UTC)
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James-I can't think of anything I like more in a concert than lots of the good ole' negative space.

John-You guys are one of the best shows I've ever attended. Looking forward to the fourth album.



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#4 Posted : 27 May 2011 02:28:28(UTC)
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James-I can't think of anything I like more in a concert than lots of the good ole' negative space.

John-You guys are one of the best shows I've ever attended. Looking forward to the fourth album.



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Thanks, we like to keep people on their toes. We have a very interesting idea for a future tour that'll divide the audience. Literally. With partitions.
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