At no point did I not say she was a real artist. I said I don't like her.

As a way of proving my point Give this a try. Adele may well be technically outstanding at what she does, and she probably is, but I don't like it. The video below is also technically outstanding, especially the solo 3 minutes in. But I get the feeling 99% of you would dismiss it as "just noise" without even giving it a go. Please do give it a go though, it proves the point well. Just because someone is amazingly talented, technically gifted and doing something perfectly, it does not mean that everyone has to like them.

Seriously, try one of these. All are technically amazing, but like I say, you'd mostly all think it's "just a noise".

Fucking hell. Wasn't expecting that sort of backlash. I never once said she wasn't a "real artist", I just said she can't call the album fully hers on one which other people wrote, produced and played instruments on.

She does play instruments yes, but i believe im correct in saying that she played zero on the album and live, according to AllMusic and Wikipedia that is. I think close to 100 people had an input on it, whether doing any of the above stated or providing back-up vocals.

And the album is all ballads, the girl can sing them, no question.. but the whole theme gets old after a while. But hey, thats my opinion.

Eh, I really don't mind her or her music. I do own both her albums and I think she's a talented singer. Be it as it may, her thing is torch songs and everyone knows that.

I mean, I'm honestly not that surprised to see her be this successful. I am taken aback by the longevity her album has had in the charts, given the fact that only two or three singles have been released so far. Adele still makes pop music, it just sounds different from Gaga, and Perry, and whomever else. Rick Rubin invoked lots of different sounds in her album, which is what really catches my ear more so than the subject matters.

In some ways, she reminds me of Taylor Swift and the success she found here in the states, just a few years ago too. Both entered the industry with a certain image, different from the rest, they appealed to certain demographics (Adele appealing to an older demographic, Swift to the tweens and teens), and they just built off that. Just because they don't look or dress like the rest of the females making pop music, that doesn't mean they aren't in that same category.

Well I wasn't categorizing them by image, rather just by all of them making pop music. No matter what, in my opinion, music comes before image. I'm a fan of Adele, but the fact is she doesn't entirely write her songs by herself, which doesn't make a difference to me because I still like her music beside the fact. It's just a mess to get into a debate about any of them as credible songwriters because whether we are talking about Adele, or Katy, or Gaga, or Beyonce, each of them have a team of co-writers beside them. As most mainstream pop artists do. It's just how it works.

Some of the greatest albums, had a team of people behind it. Having input by someone else can bring out a stronger emotion into the work you're making. Besides Elvis Presley easily the bestselling solo artist in history, and he hardly wrote any of his songs, I would say less then ten and they were co-written.

What she means is that Adele doesn't aim to have a sex appeal in order to sell music....

Everybody should dig Poison Idea!

Its actually Elvis. He sold over a billion records.

Well, that may be the case but we're talking about Solo Artists, and Elvis did sell more than Michael Jackson.

Well, still speaking as not that big of a fan, you as a journalist should probably be familiar with the fact that cover photos (aside from the taking of them) are usually out of the artist's hands. I'd say if anything her agent or the promoter service that books her venues were more behind this, if not Vogue (which I should add is notorious for air-brushing every thing).