I saw Ciara live .... I think she was OK. Not great, but OK.

As for Beyoncé - call me mad, but I'm having a listen to "I Am Sasha Fierce" on Napster (not got it, just giving it a chance), and it's taken me by surprise - this is actually rather good. I'm still not keen on her voice when she's moaning over the top, but she doesn't do that so much now, the songs I've heard so far are good. Also, despite not hearing her song before I wrote it and the lyric and instrument plan being completely different, the tune of her song "Halo" is quite similar to the song I wrote of the same name. Creepy. (Heh, Fiercey in RP would be happy with that!)

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You just don't understand hip-hop, this is dance club hit. Nothing meaninful about the ong but hey I excersice with this song and it "works".

I don't understand hip-hop either then - all this "in da club come on step to da beatz" or whatever is just overused and annoying. I don't like the song in the video at all. (Though I do like her jeans.) Ciara appeared to be singing live when I saw her, which I respect, but she's still a noob in the industry (I think?) and has a LONG way to go.

Just buy a drumcomputer then. This vid is just terrible. Someone with an evening dress in a saltmine, or whatever, in a sand mine. Into the schredder with it. Im sorry.
And indeed, i dont understand hip hop at all. I dont want to. Its all about gangs, tits, fights, cars, bracelets, pussy. Its all so negative. Why dont black people, take black artists from the 60's (Jazz, soul) as an example. They would be proud of them. In that days they were very creative. But now, lately, that hip hop scene, its bloody awefull. Miles Davis rules.

oh hell naw you did not just go there with racism and yes your being racist don't try to come up with something or an excuse to what you said because I'm not going to believe you. Your racist and I cnalt stand racist people. I'm sorry but can a mod take care of this becaue this shouldn't be allowed.

Your definitely ignorant in what you said. Hip hop can be about all those stuff but you would never understand, especially if you are not from America.


Can we please get back on topic, I don't want this thread to be about hip-hop, I wan it to be about Ciara and Beyonce. Enough with the racism and the genre put downs.

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Im sorry if you think im a racist. I AM NOT A RACIST. All i sayd was compared with artists as Miles Davis and a lot more, Hip Hop in these days is very agressive (sex sex sex, gangs, guns)
Calling someone a racist who is not a racist is also not allowed.

It doesn't really matter to me how good a dancer the musician is, when I go to a music performance, I go to see music. If I wanted to see dancing as the main event, I'd go to a dance show. (Good dancing is a nice addition though, it's like having stage effects - not necessary, but improves the show somewhat.)

Ciara's voice has been modified like crazy in that song. Live, she sounds like something completely different. To be brutally honest, I think she would be better off as a full-time dancer. She's not the best dancer I've seen, but she is very talented in that respect. But of course, there's more money in music ....

Back to my thoughts on Beyoncé. I downloaded half of "I Am Sasha Fierce". There's 16 tracks. The first eight I really like, the other half didn't impress me one bit. It's as if she's trying to appeal to two completely different audiences. One contains me, the other doesn't.

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Probably intention. Something for everyone and all that?

Only like 8 songs as I said. "If I Were A Boy", "Halo", "Disappear", "Broken-Hearted Girl", "Ave Maria", "Smash Into You", "Satellites" and "That's Why You're Beautiful" are good. The rest is total pap. If I did get the CD, at least Beyoncé conveniently put the songs I like together at the beginning, and I can skip over the end. Nice of her! :P

Beyonce and Ciara would make a good scene :))