Um, cam I really don't know you like that, what is your problem. No is ever mature, because what you may consider mature I may consider immature, same vise versa.

OK, my problem is such. Maturity is a kind of definable concept, yes? So lets start on that assumption. What I'm saying is that maturity is not subjective. BUT mature people can sometimes do immature acts, because letting your hair down sometimes can be fun.

You claimed that if there were no pop fans on here we would all slate pop music and create threads insulting it. I disagree with this statement because I really do not believe that, to quote yourself "we are all mature, no one is ever mature". For a start, it's an entirely meaningless statement. But I think it's also total nonsense. As I have stated above, mature people can act immature sometimes, hell, immature people can even act like real adults sometimes, it's amazing. But those occasional acts do not suddenly render them "mature" or "immature". An immature person is consistently doing acts which are immature, saying things which are stupid and naive, and so on. A mature person is someone who on a regular basis acta maturly and so on. Some people are MORE mature than other mature people. This means they act immaturely less often. And vice versa. You get the idea.

The point of the above clarification is that I do not need to create threads saying "Madonna is shite" because whilst I have that opinion, a) I'm aware that most people couldn't give a fuck how I feel about Madonna & b) frankly, I'd rather talk about things that interest me than things that I find annoying, on this forum anyway.

And well, why would anyone act differently just because a, b & c never posted here originally? The threads in the music forum would obviously all be rock/metal/punk-centric and people may throw in cheap jabs towards pop groups in those threads (as they do now) but I do not see any justifiable reason as to why people would NOT post a thread just because it might annoy someone who does post, but would post it if nobody would be offended. Frankly, what's the point of calling something crap if there's going to be nobody to get wound up about it?

My "problem" (which is far too strong a word) is that you stated something as fact when there is no evidence that people would create thrads called "POP SUCKS". And I tend to be the kind of chap who likes evidence before making outlandish claims. And then I found the concept that nobody is mature to be thoroughly hilarious.