On the contrary, I know and like many chavs. Though the number who are wankers in my town outweighs the good... :|

Generally the whole gay thing doesn't do any good if you try and befriend any, either way, hahahh.

There are, just the majority are really fucking creepy :S Or just overly camp to the max...

It's a shame, some chavs I know are some of the most attractive people I know, hahah.

Been there once when I was visiting relatives in Florida. It was horrible. I've never seen so much emo hipsters, wimpy goth kids and weirdos in one place.

I do adore the irony of "look at us, we're all so different." But man, they are fucking teenagers, so you can't look at it too harshly, teenagers want to identify themselves in some way or another, and lets be honest, aren't really all that knowledgeable about what originality is. Be they neds or goths, it's just about fitting in with your pals, and obviously to a certain degree, a superiority kick, especially with goths.

Hell, you should try listening to some older goths whinging about the young'uns, it's far fucking worse, just sad.

Well no, obviously not, I'm generalising. I mean I'd say Paul's always be an individual for better or for worse, often the latter. But fuck it, whatever makes you feel comfortable is all that you need. Be yourself. If that's dressing up all in black and in makeup and hanging around on High Streets, fuck man, go for it, be happy.

I dunno, I was just remembering my own time as a teenager, which I have to say that I'd never like to go through again. Was dumb, arrogant, thought I knew it all, absolutely no sense of the future, and I was one of the smarter ones! It's pretty lousy time man, it's all confusion, and at that age you are still trying to find yourself, and are trying to impress people and all that. It's not a bad thing at all, it's massively important influence on what sort of person you turn into in later life. But you do kinda endure shit in a way you might not really enjoy to hang around with people you think are your friends or whatever. I mean I only started to make any sort of sense of myself in my last year at school, after turning 17.

So I'm trying not to sound grossly patronising to teens, really, I'm trying to empathise as much as anything because I sure as fuck wouldn't want to go back through that all again. Being one big ball of hormones, not so much fun.

The problem for me being ginger and a geek was that I wasn't really going to fit in anywhere. Sure, I was in a subset like all the rest, I wore my Slipknot hoodie with pride till they banned hoodies. But even amongst those people I was a weirdo, too shy and reserved more than anything else. So I learned early, just to get out of the way, and the moment I did I started to identify with the teachers and see myself as apart from most of my classmates, a class all of my own. And thus the long journey into bitter solitude and arrogance began.

Anyway, the point I'm getting at is, I thought once I left school, that everyone would be like that, or at least some of them. Turns out at University it was the same old crap, people not growing up at all.

But to bring it back to fashion, I don't indulge in fashion, my taste in clothing is comfort over appearance, hence why I look and dress so decidedly unimpressive. I get my clothes from TK Max, and Matalan, and independent music labels.

What you seemed to say was you chose to do all these generic stereotypical things because you wanted to. Which is fair enough.

On that front don't worry. Once you get out of high school, things do get better. You won't hate growing up, you'll just be bored by it.

I simply don't shop there because its annoying and I just don't find the clothes 'hot' anymore. Maybe because I'm getting older.

LOL.

I was talking to a friend who is 21 on Wednesday, just essentially not worry. Fuck it, growing up is just an illusion really, horribly slow happening, barely noticeable. Really, the idea that either leaving school, reaching a certain age or any of the suddenly makes you mature is just not true.

It's kind of odd to realise for the very first time but yeah, it's really comforting for me, something to stop worrying about.