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#1 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:09:49(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:19:20(UTC)
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Why on earth was this made in SERIOUS debate?!
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#3 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:27:05(UTC)
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#4 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:33:43(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:34:18(UTC)
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LMAO at Steph!


LMFAO
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Oh well.. she sits outside then. LOL!

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#6 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:34:31(UTC)
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LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.
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#7 Posted : 31 July 2009 06:53:21(UTC)
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LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.
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#8 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:08:14(UTC)
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GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P

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#9 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:14:53(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Lmao, I scroll up and look at it and I still laugh like the first time.
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Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.
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#11 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:31:03(UTC)
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TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)
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#12 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:36:48(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)


Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't.

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#13 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:40:16(UTC)
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TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)


Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't.


Well, your point about there beliefs isnt neccesarily true, because who says that just because we have different religeons to them that they werent right. Also, the nuclear war possibility is in fact far from slim, with things in Iran going ape shit and North Korea being n00bz, it's a lot more than slim.
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#14 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:47:40(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)


Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't.


Well, your point about there beliefs isnt neccesarily true, because who says that just because we have different religeons to them that they werent right. Also, the nuclear war possibility is in fact far from slim, with things in Iran going ape shit and North Korea being n00bz, it's a lot more than slim.


First of all, man ain't these debates fun? Secondly, Iran & North Korea can't possibly start a nuclear war in the next two years. Even if they do, It' not going to be world shattering. Iran is right next to US-conquered (and yes, I see Iraq, Kuwait, & Afghanistan as conquered because US conquered them because the US wanted them democratic), so they'd be quickly beaten, and North Korea, cmon, China, Japan, South Korea, Russia, some US islands also nearby. And thirdly, they were right that exactly the year Cortes came was when a god would come and destroy them, but they though Cortes was a god, so in some sense they were right, but still, I don't believe their entire religion, nor do I believe many other religion because some of them sound foolish to me. Some religions like the Mayan and the Ancient Greek ones, they thought up all these gods made this and that because they had no science to prove what really happened when they made a fire, or when there was an earthquake, or a storm. They thought the gods had power to do all of this.
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#15 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:07:53(UTC)
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TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)


Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't.


Well, your point about there beliefs isnt neccesarily true, because who says that just because we have different religeons to them that they werent right. Also, the nuclear war possibility is in fact far from slim, with things in Iran going ape shit and North Korea being n00bz, it's a lot more than slim.


First of all, man ain't these debates fun? Secondly, Iran & North Korea can't possibly start a nuclear war in the next two years. Even if they do, It' not going to be world shattering. Iran is right next to US-conquered (and yes, I see Iraq, Kuwait, & Afghanistan as conquered because US conquered them because the US wanted them democratic), so they'd be quickly beaten, and North Korea, cmon, China, Japan, South Korea, Russia, some US islands also nearby. And thirdly, they were right that exactly the year Cortes came was when a god would come and destroy them, but they though Cortes was a god, so in some sense they were right, but still, I don't believe their entire religion, nor do I believe many other religion because some of them sound foolish to me. Some religions like the Mayan and the Ancient Greek ones, they thought up all these gods made this and that because they had no science to prove what really happened when they made a fire, or when there was an earthquake, or a storm. They thought the gods had power to do all of this.


Who's to say God doesnt? Why does God have to be your/christian opinion of him? Maybe no ones right? Maybe science IS god, thats my opinion anyway.
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Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
GirlSpice wrote:
LMAO at Steph!


At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off.


Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D.


I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd.

& Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P


Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.


More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;)


Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't.


Well, your point about there beliefs isnt neccesarily true, because who says that just because we have different religeons to them that they werent right. Also, the nuclear war possibility is in fact far from slim, with things in Iran going ape shit and North Korea being n00bz, it's a lot more than slim.


First of all, man ain't these debates fun? Secondly, Iran & North Korea can't possibly start a nuclear war in the next two years. Even if they do, It' not going to be world shattering. Iran is right next to US-conquered (and yes, I see Iraq, Kuwait, & Afghanistan as conquered because US conquered them because the US wanted them democratic), so they'd be quickly beaten, and North Korea, cmon, China, Japan, South Korea, Russia, some US islands also nearby. And thirdly, they were right that exactly the year Cortes came was when a god would come and destroy them, but they though Cortes was a god, so in some sense they were right, but still, I don't believe their entire religion, nor do I believe many other religion because some of them sound foolish to me. Some religions like the Mayan and the Ancient Greek ones, they thought up all these gods made this and that because they had no science to prove what really happened when they made a fire, or when there was an earthquake, or a storm. They thought the gods had power to do all of this.


Who's to say God doesnt? Why does God have to be your/christian opinion of him? Maybe no ones right? Maybe science IS god, thats my opinion anyway.


First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.
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First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.


I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?.
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Aj wrote:
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First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.


I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?.


I simply believe that god made everything. I mean, someone had to have made everything. I don't necessarily see how it formed to be alone. I just don't believe almost all of the stories in bibles and in torahs. I don't believe Moses made the waters rise, possibly just a metaphor that someone from the Israelites documented while on the run or so.
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First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.


I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?.


I simply believe that god made everything. I mean, someone had to have made everything. I don't necessarily see how it formed to be alone. I just don't believe almost all of the stories in bibles and in torahs. I don't believe Moses made the waters rise, possibly just a metaphor that someone from the Israelites documented while on the run or so.


The bible makes a hell of a lot more sense if you take everything as metaphorical, and not 'this is exactly how it happened'.
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TP wrote:
Aj wrote:
TP wrote:

First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.


I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?.


I simply believe that god made everything. I mean, someone had to have made everything. I don't necessarily see how it formed to be alone. I just don't believe almost all of the stories in bibles and in torahs. I don't believe Moses made the waters rise, possibly just a metaphor that someone from the Israelites documented while on the run or so.


The bible makes a hell of a lot more sense if you take everything as metaphorical, and not 'this is exactly how it happened'.


Yes, the bible is a book about life lessons.
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