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xNightsidex		#61 Posted : 08 July 2009 07:22:22(UTC)
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flipside x		#62 Posted : 08 July 2009 12:29:21(UTC)
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TP		#63 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:16:12(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		I don't understand about the fuss about Obama. He seems to be doing just fine, if not better.
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Rincewind		#64 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:18:53(UTC)
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TP		#65 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:20:20(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not.
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Aj		#66 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:34:20(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad.
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stephaniewazhere		#67 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:36:28(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity.
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TP		#68 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:39:36(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. The media would do anything to get money.
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Aj		#69 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:42:56(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good.
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stephaniewazhere		#70 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:48:40(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. I don't consider myself patriotic. Well maybe I am. But still, I don't own one United States flag. Nor a t-shirt, nor anything that has the US flag in it. I just try to be positive about things until I know its a fail. They are here tackling this guy when he's only been president for months. Also if this refers to the 9/11 situation well maybe I am, lol. I love my country so much, I mean who doesn't? Well....... (Cough cough Nimrods)
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TP		#71 Posted : 31 July 2009 08:49:47(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt?
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Aj		#72 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:05:26(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		TP wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt? What do you mean?
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TP		#73 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:08:45(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt? What do you mean? They'd have to pick to either go out and run away from the Germans, their own people, or stay and most likely die to the hands of their German people. It's like a child with divorced parents, either you like this one more or the other.
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Aj		#74 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:11:35(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		TP wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt? What do you mean? They'd have to pick to either go out and run away from the Germans, their own people, or stay and most likely die to the hands of their German people. It's like a child with divorced parents, either you like this one more or the other. Oh, yeah, but still I dont think it would have been much of a dilemma for me - I would have legged it, it's sad really. Schindlers List makes me cry (N)
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TP		#75 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:12:33(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt? What do you mean? They'd have to pick to either go out and run away from the Germans, their own people, or stay and most likely die to the hands of their German people. It's like a child with divorced parents, either you like this one more or the other. Oh, yeah, but still I dont think it would have been much of a dilemma for me - I would have legged it, it's sad really. Schindlers List makes me cry (N) Despite our differences, AJ, you seem like someone I'd like to hangout with.
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Aj		#76 Posted : 31 July 2009 09:18:42(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		TP wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: TP wrote: Rincewind wrote: can anyone explain to me why there is a massive uproar at the moment about obama's birth certificate? Because they don't know if he was American Born or not. Oh for gods sake. This is the kind of stuff that piss's me off. The man is far better than any other person who could take over. Does it matter if he was born in America? The guy IS American, they wouldnt have cocked it up THAT bad. I agree and from now on I will not get involved with these "American" related debates. There really isn't no point with all this negativity. Hahaa, your problem is your too patriotic. Which isnt always a bad thing, but do you think the Germans would have signed up for the Nazi army if they weren't 'patriotic'? Patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. Not always to the extremes of Nazi Germany, but even if it affects the way you think, It's still not good. How do you think the German Jews felt? What do you mean? They'd have to pick to either go out and run away from the Germans, their own people, or stay and most likely die to the hands of their German people. It's like a child with divorced parents, either you like this one more or the other. Oh, yeah, but still I dont think it would have been much of a dilemma for me - I would have legged it, it's sad really. Schindlers List makes me cry (N) Despite our differences, AJ, you seem like someone I'd like to hangout with. Why thank you :)
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Gildermershina		#77 Posted : 31 July 2009 12:35:23(UTC)
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TP		#78 Posted : 31 July 2009 12:39:00(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Gildermershina wrote: The birth certificate concerns should have quickly been quashed by the fact that several archived Hawaiian newspapers carried the announcement of his birth. American politics is utterly absurd at times. Media will do anything for a quick buck.
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stephaniewazhere		#79 Posted : 31 July 2009 12:40:23(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		TP wrote: Gildermershina wrote: The birth certificate concerns should have quickly been quashed by the fact that several archived Hawaiian newspapers carried the announcement of his birth. American politics is utterly absurd at times. Media will do anything for a quick buck. X10 I agree big time and Gildermershina that's also everywhere not just America.
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Gildermershina		#80 Posted : 31 July 2009 12:42:53(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Moderators, Registered Joined: 13/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,094 Location: Probably not here Was thanked: 113 time(s) in 76 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: TP wrote: Gildermershina wrote: The birth certificate concerns should have quickly been quashed by the fact that several archived Hawaiian newspapers carried the announcement of his birth. American politics is utterly absurd at times. Media will do anything for a quick buck. X10 I agree big time and Gildermershina that's also everywhere not just America. Well yes, but American politics is uniquely petty.

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