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TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:
First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.
I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?. I simply believe that god made everything. I mean, someone had to have made everything. I don't necessarily see how it formed to be alone. I just don't believe almost all of the stories in bibles and in torahs. I don't believe Moses made the waters rise, possibly just a metaphor that someone from the Israelites documented while on the run or so. The bible makes a hell of a lot more sense if you take everything as metaphorical, and not 'this is exactly how it happened'. Yes, the bible is a book about life lessons. And a very good one to. I've read it, tis rather good :) its actually got a brilliant storyline to it as well, very sad. Still, I dont believe in it. I believe in Jesus, but not that he was the son of god. Or that he was any different to any other human. Just a nice guy :) |
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Aj wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:
First of all, I'm not christian, I'm a reformist. And secondly, god IS science, not science is god.
I disagree, I dont think that God's a concious being, everything we believed that we thought was made by god was proven in fact to be made by science, however who's to say that isnt a god? Who's to say that science has to be exact about everything and not philosophical. Why couldnt the Big bang have been god? Why does God have to be a little man with a white beard and a deep voice? No religeon is correct, and to be honest if we ever do understand god before its our time that whatever it is wants us to, I think it will be a darn let down to all religeons, and i think it will be a bloody shame. Wheres the excitemant of knowing everything?. I simply believe that god made everything. I mean, someone had to have made everything. I don't necessarily see how it formed to be alone. I just don't believe almost all of the stories in bibles and in torahs. I don't believe Moses made the waters rise, possibly just a metaphor that someone from the Israelites documented while on the run or so. The bible makes a hell of a lot more sense if you take everything as metaphorical, and not 'this is exactly how it happened'. Yes, the bible is a book about life lessons. And a very good one to. I've read it, tis rather good :) its actually got a brilliant storyline to it as well, very sad. Still, I dont believe in it. I believe in Jesus, but not that he was the son of god. Or that he was any different to any other human. Just a nice guy :) Agreed. I don't believe he was spiritual or anything. Just clever and nice. Edited by user 31 July 2009 10:53:43(UTC)
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TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:GirlSpice wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:GirlSpice wrote:LMAO at Steph! At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off. Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D. I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd. & Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't. More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe. My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;) Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't. I agree with you |
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ALX wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:TP wrote:Aj wrote:GirlSpice wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:GirlSpice wrote:LMAO at Steph! At or with because I'm still laughing my ass off. Was laughing at the pic you posted, so with :D. I lol'd Steph, and i REALLY lol'd. & Lewis, it is serious debate because if we're talking about the Mayan calender and Nostradamus it's all quite 'deep maan'. Innit :P Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't. More recent academic scholars of Maya civilization have disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, insisting that it simply marks a resetting of the calendar to Baktun 13.0.0.0.0,[7] rather as the units and tens columns of a car's odometer reset to zero each time a hundred miles are completed. They also argue that the Long Count calendar does not end on 13.0.0.0.0.[8] Scholars such as Linda Schele and David Freidel[9] cite the Mayan inscription Coba Stela 1, which features the date 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0. In Mayan mythology, this date represents the age of the previous world at its ending. Because the Mayan calendar is cyclical, the above dating will also, of necessity, mark the end of the present Long Count cycle and the beginning of the next. With each column equal to twenty times its predecessor, this date lies some 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,879 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe. My argument against the Mayan Calander theory (off wikipedia.) I think it beats your's TP ;) Their calendars were based on harvest, and on a full earth rotation around the sun. Mayans had their own beliefs, which aren't our beliefs. So what if it reaches that date? It just will reach it. Nothing more. There is no possibility that it will happen. There might be a nuclear war, but with the cold war over, those chances are slim. Besides, people kept saying the world is going to end millions of times before. Did it ever happen? No, it didn't. I agree with you Thank you. |
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ALX wrote:Who actually thinks the world will end in December 2012? I don't. The only people who believe the world is going to end in December 2012 are quack new agers with only the slimmest grasp on reality. Just read this: http://www.giagia.co.uk/...01/23/apocalympics-2012/ if you have any doubt. Also have a look on the Badastronomy blog to find any of the many times that Phil Plait has debunked this nonsense as well. TP wrote:Well, if we were Mayan, we'd worry about it, but we aren't.
No. If we were Mayan we'd understand how the Mayan calendar works and wouldn't be getting all bent out of shape about nothing. Aj wrote:
Well, your point about there beliefs isnt neccesarily true, because who says that just because we have different religeons to them that they werent right. Also, the nuclear war possibility is in fact far from slim, with things in Iran going ape shit and North Korea being n00bz, it's a lot more than slim.
Nah, can't agree. Iran doesn't even have the bomb, and North Korea have about 6 of them, and missles that would only just hit Alaska. Not even worth using them until they have ICBMs, to be blunt. I stopped reading the thread when it went into some nonsense religion kick because I'd surely just offend someone. |
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