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Paradox		#1 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:01:33(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		The Official Insolent Paradox Website Style: Progressive Metal/Avant-Garde/Thrash/Sludge/Industrial Main Influences Mekong Delta, Cynic, Coroner, Alice In Chains, Iron Maiden, Ministry, Slayer, Melvins, Isis, Boris, Godflesh Biography: Insolent Paradox is a proggressive metal band from Mexico, they have released 4 full-length albums. Formed by 2 friends (Hector Apreza and Jose Lugo) in Cuernavaca, Mexico after Hector was kicked of his old band, they started playing with some session musicians, after realizing they needed a full-time singer they contacted a friend who played with them in some of their old bands, Cristian Lamberg a singer with impressive skills, he recommended them to a rhythm guitarist named Dani Marquez. About 2 months after the first incarnation of the band was formed, Cristian tragically died on a bus accident. Dani decided to take over vocal-work, then a drummer named Erik answered to a newspaper ad and the current lineup was completed, few weeks after their first release (self-titled) they signed to Negative Records, they have continued to tour, record, and release, they have also achieved #1 records on the US and South America and several top-10 releases in Canada and the UK. Jose Lugo formed a jazz fusion band named Oceans shortly after the release of 'Memories, Paradox's second album. After Memories the band refined their music and released the conceptual album Son, after a long tour along Negative Records's major acts the band went into the studio to record Thoughtcrime, featuring a larger number of influences. After that record they untied from Negative Records to form Seagull Recordings. In which they released Human, which experiments even more influences than their previous releases. Members: Daniel Marquez (Guitar/Vocals) Hector Apreza (Guitar) Jose Lugo (Bass) Kickass face. Erik Schuter (Drums) [center]Former Members Cristian Lamberg (Vocals) (RIP) Side Projects: Oceans - Jose Lugo's Fusion Jazz Band Merkin Muffley - Hector Apreza's Drone/Shoegaze/Post-Rock Project Award Nominations: 19th Birdies Best Album - Son Lost Best Album Artwork - Son Lost The Mother Fuckin Rock Awards Best Metal Band Lost Best Metal Single - Hell Lost Best Metal Album - Son Lost Best Live Band Lost Edited by user 27 May 2010 13:00:11(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#2 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:02:46(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Comprehensive chart of Insolent Paradox and side projects discography Edited by user 27 May 2010 13:51:23(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#3 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:06:05(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		no dates coming, sadly or not, huh? Meanwhile you can search for Sergei, the trumpet turtle Edited by user 23 March 2010 13:07:37(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#4 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:08:35(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Insolent Paradox The band's debut, and a good one, when the band's first lead singer passed, he left the band with a legacy of gory lyrics and mainly songs built of speed, technical yes, but not proggressive, the band was ok with it because the high-pitched vocals coming from Lamberg really fitted this death-thrash style the band had at the point, but when Dani Marquez came in the vocals, with a very limited voice compared to Cristian Lamberg, they knew they had to rebuild the band's sound, and they did to a point. You may not consider it a good thing entirely, at some points it feels like they are really trying to get rid of that deathrash style, but in the end it becomes an amazing product, one of it's main issues is that it looks like it's separated on a before/after Cristian Lamberg. On this Hector comments "We did modified our sound mainly because me and Jose have been on some more proggressive bands and when we formed this it wasnt even a full-time band, it was just a way to make heavier music, we alternated with other local groups we were in, then we realized we could write our stuff in full freedom here, and we started leaning towards prog, but then Cristian came in and he wanted this sound which fitted what we were doing before, when he passed away we realized that without his talent we would have suffocated on such a crowded scene, so we went prog again which fits Dani's voice". In so many ways he's right lets see what he says about the so criticized tracklist. "Yes, it was kind of chronological (laughs) but mainly because we didnt wanted to place a brutal thrash song like Rot Again, next to proggy stuff like Evolution or Manifesto". So in conclusion this record is a good but not great record, with amazing songs but they wanted to achieve everything with this record, not to get an inch away from the roots but to sound far more proggressive than before, still most of the people will pick this over their demos anyday, on one certain thing the art work is amazing 1 Insolent Paradox 5:00 (Apreza,Lugo) 2 Evolution of Man And Animal 5:20 (Marquez, Lugo) 3 Chaos In Hell 4:15 (Lamberg) 4 Rot Again 3:00 (Lamberg, Marquez) 5 Cold Glory 7:25 (Marquez, Apreza) 6 Phantom of The Opera (cover) 5:45 (Harris) 7 Anger Manifesto 2:35 (Marquez) 8 Pieces 4:20 (Marquez, Apreza) 9 Facing The Abyss 8:05 (Apreza, Schuter) 10 Death And Beginning (instrumental) 12:30 (Apreza) Special Edition: Insolent Paradox 1 Insolent Paradox 5:00 (Apreza,Lugo) 2 Evolution of Man And Animal 5:20 (Marquez, Lugo) 3 Chaos In Hell 4:15 (Lamberg) 4 Rot Again 3:00 (Lamberg, Marquez) 5 Cold Glory 7:25 (Marquez, Apreza) 6 Phantom of The Opera (cover) 5:45 (Harris) 7 Anger Manifesto 2:35 (Marquez) 8 Pieces 4:20 (Marquez, Apreza) 9 Facing The Abyss 8:05 (Apreza, Schuter) 10 Death And Beginning (instrumental) 12:30 (Apreza) Insolent Paradox Remaster 1 Insolent Paradox 5:05 (Apreza,Lugo) 2 Evolution of Man And Animal 5:15 (Marquez, Lugo) 3 Chaos In Hell 4:10 (Lamberg) 4 Rot Again 3:00 (Lamberg, Marquez) 5 Cold Glory 7:25 (Marquez, Apreza) 6 Phantom of The Opera (cover) 5:45 (Harris) 7 Anger Manifesto 2:50 (Marquez) 8 Pieces 4:10 (Marquez, Apreza) 9 Facing The Abyss 8:00 (Apreza, Schuter) 10 Death And Beginning (instrumental) 13:05 (Apreza) Live EP I(09/06/2009) 1 Insolent Paradox 2 Evolution of Man And Animal 3 Death and Beginning 4 Facing the Abyss Movie I-II DVD I: Making of Insolent Paradox 29:30 II: Bunch of Early Videos 130:42 1. Rehearsal with Cristian I 2. Rehearsal with Cristian II 3. Making Merchandise 4. First Gig! Poor Quality! 5. Rehearsal With Cristian III 6. No Singer Video Demo 7. Auditions 8. Rehearsals with Dani I/II 9. Yet Another Early Gig 10. Acoustic Session I 11. Rehearsal with Dani III Edited by user 03 November 2009 08:22:17(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#5 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:11:40(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Memories Memories is a lot darker than its predecesor from the cover, the problem with the self titled indepedent release from this band was mainly that they couldnt get their ideas quite together, so the album was pretty irregular on the sound, it seems impossible to merge two genres without leaning almost entirely to one, this is still the problem with Insolent Paradox and the prog-thrash genre in general is that they are either thrash bands with heavy proggressive influence or viceversa, so it seems more of a subgenre than a genre itself, so most of the bands in the middle are too prog to thrash fans and too heavy to prog fans, so they tend to develope a fancult without ever getting exposure out of this cult, not even on metal underground, less on mainstream culture, this may not apply to Paradox, since they have even had a #1 record in the States and some other high charts across the globe, but this could be temporary, with such a demanding industry probably they will fade into underground or simply dissapear. Which is shame because it's such a great band, but they are always lacking something on their albums as a whole, it mainly seems as a compilation at times, maybe 3-4 songs are pretty well tied, and well this one has a better track order, music and recording, still it seems like they improved their sound without really changing it at all. 1 Windwalker 4:30 (Lugo) 2 The Blinding Light 3:10 (Marquez) 3 Forgotten World 6:55 (Lugo, Apreza) 4 Under the Mountain 4:25 (Lugo) 5 Perfectionist 4:35 (Apreza) 6 Tale of A Country 9:10 (Apreza) 7 Mayhem 3:40 (Marquez) 8 7 Unknown Ways 2:05 (Apreza) 9 Remember 4:10 (Marquez, Lugo, Apreza) 10 Gates To Awakening 8:15 (Apreza) Special Edition: Memories 1 Windwalker 4:30 (Lugo) 2 The Blinding Light 3:10 (Marquez) 3 Forgotten World 6:55 (Lugo, Apreza) 4 Under the Mountain 4:25 (Lugo) 5 Perfectionist 4:35 (Apreza) 6 Tale of A Country 9:10 (Apreza) 7 Mayhem 3:40 (Marquez) 8 7 Unknown Ways 2:05 (Apreza) 9 Remember 4:10 (Marquez, Lugo, Apreza) 10 Gates To Awakening 8:15 (Apreza) Memories Remaster 1 Windwalker 4:30 (Lugo) 2 The Blinding Light 3:30 (Marquez) 3 Forgotten World 6:25 (Lugo, Apreza) 4 Under the Mountain 6:05 (Lugo) 5 Perfectionist 4:40 (Apreza) 6 Tale of A Country 9:20 (Apreza) 7 Mayhem 3:45 (Marquez) 8 7 Unknown Ways 1:55 (Apreza) 9 Remember 4:15 (Marquez, Lugo, Apreza) 10 Gates To Awakening 8:05 (Apreza) Livehorn 1 Pieces (live) 3:55 (Marquez, Apreza) 2 Phantom of The Opera (live) 4:40 (Harris) 3 Detroit Rock City (live) 2:05 (Stanley, Ezrin) 4 Facing The Abyss (live) 5:20 (Apreza, Schuter) 5 Cold Glory (live) 6:40 (Marquez, Apreza) 6 Gates To Awakening (live) 8:15 (Apreza) 7 Perfectionist (live) 4:55 (Apreza) 8 Windwalker (live) 5:00 (Lugo) 9 Death And Beginning (live) 10:45 (Apreza) 10 2112 (Cuernavaca 18/04/09) 18:30 (Peart, Lifeson, Lee) Live EPs II-IV Live EP II(5/08/09) 1 Death and Beginning/Gates to Awakening Live EP III (27/08/09) 2 Perfectionist 3 Windwalker 4 Remember Live EP IV (28/08/09) 5 Under the Mountain 6 Altar 7 Lets Lynch the Landlord 8 7 Unknown Ways Movie III-V III: Making of Memories 11:20 IV: Some Short Story (biography) 5:10 V: Bunch of Not So Early Videos 40:16 1. Acoustic Session II 2. Blackhorn Backstage 3. Jamming to Pearl Jam 4. Songwriting 5. Caifanes Medley 6. Mega Session with Crewmembers Edited by user 02 October 2009 11:30:44(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#6 Posted : 08 September 2009 11:13:15(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Livehorn Probably their only album so far that fully reaches expectatives because well they werent so high, dont get me wrong Paradox is an awesome live band but when they decided to record one of their shortest concerts for their first live record, many people seemed dissapointed, from other reviews you may think that Paradox is a mediocre band, you couldnt get further form truth, is just that they as a young, extremely young band havent reached their full potential, the recording is great but it doesnt reach their actual gigs, on some other subject, with all eyes upon them, after Memories adn its great success, this live record reaching 2 million sales and their re-release of their self-titled being #1 in the US, and their second re-release coming soon, will they go the easy way and make their sound easy?, or will they continue releasing chaotic, not-organized albums?, on the other hand and I think is the best for everyone there is a chance they wont care about mainstream and try to reach their full-potential, lets hope it is this way 1 Pieces (live) 3:55 (Marquez, Apreza) 2 Phantom of The Opera (live) 4:40 (Harris) 3 Detroit Rock City (live) 2:05 (Stanley, Ezrin) 4 Facing The Abyss (live) 5:20 (Apreza, Schuter) 5 Cold Glory (live) 6:40 (Marquez, Apreza) 6 Gates To Awakening (live) 8:15 (Apreza) 7 Perfectionist (live) 4:55 (Apreza) 8 Windwalker (live) 5:00 (Lugo) 9 Death And Beginning (live) 10:45 (Apreza) 10 2112 (Cuernavaca 18/04/09) 18:30 (Peart, Lifeson, Lee) Edited by user 13 September 2009 10:37:01(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#7 Posted : 13 September 2009 11:16:56(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Well, long time ago we gave you the news on a Jose Lugo (bassist) jazz-rock project named 'Oceans', well the line-up quitted and the masters from the 4-5 tracks previoulsy recorded were archived, but on their visits to UK he made contact with some musicians including Paul Mensch from the original line-up and some crew members and brought Paradox's lead Hector to record this 3 tracks: Title 4:28 Learn 6:11 Light Years 5:10 Personnel: Jose Lugo - Electric and Acoustic Bass on all tracks, Double Bass on all tracks, Keyboards on Learn, Syntethizers on Light Years, and Vocals on all tracks Laura Huse - Vocals on all tracks Hector Apreza - Acoustic Guitar on all tracks, Electric Guitar on Light Years, and Alto Saxophone on Title Paul Mensch - Electric Guitar on all tracks Ron Orich - Keyboards and Piano on all tracks Toño Romano - Drums on all tracks, Tenor Saxophone on Title Edy Garcia - Flute on all tracks, Acoustic Guitar on Learn, Baritone Saxophone on Title Johnny Reed - Trumpet on Title Gerardo Villa - Electric Guitar on Learn and Light Years
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Paradox		#8 Posted : 14 September 2009 08:02:14(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		After this extremely succesful release of our first album Memories is finally done it will have 4 Cds including Livehorn and 1 DVD (last one had 3 Cds and 1 DVD), it will cost around 50-60 dollars as the other one did and it will be released worldwide Edited by user 02 October 2009 11:29:54(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#9 Posted : 20 September 2009 06:24:39(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		News: Memories boxset has been released worldwide! (tracklist above), also a 1-CD version is out one the market Bassist Jose Lugo's Alternate project Oceans will do a 7-date tour in US when Insolent Paradox is recording its third album. A second single is being recorded. About this 3rd album on a recent interview bassist Jose Lugo said it'll be a concept album, and they're trying to keep as much of this album in secret as they can. Edited by user 28 September 2009 06:41:17(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#10 Posted : 23 September 2009 11:21:53(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Oceans' second single is now released this one is less complex than its predecesor (for those who dont know Oceans is Jose Lugo's jazzfusion/avant-garde project) Run 3:10 Ghnrtsd 6:00 A Line 4:25 Personnel: Jose Lugo - Electric and Acoustic Bass on all tracks, Vocals on all tracks, percussions on Run and A Line Laura Huse - Vocals on all tracks Hector Apreza - Acoustic Guitar on all tracks, Chapman Stick on Run Paul Mensch - Electric Guitar on all tracks Ron Orich - Keyboards and Piano on all tracks, Organ on Ghnrtsd Toño Romano - Drums on all tracks Edy Garcia - Acoustic Guitar and flute on all tracks Johnny Reed - Trumpet on all tracks, Saxophones on Ghnrtsd Gerardo Villa - Electric Guitar on Run
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Synxhard		#11 Posted : 23 September 2009 11:27:50(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 03/04/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,433 Location: Seattle Thanks: 22 times Was thanked: 33 time(s) in 16 post(s)		Can't get enough of Ocean. In particular I like 'Run', although it is practically guaranteed you'll win my vote if you are a metal musician who has the balls to put out jazz music, which tends to piss people off, but not me. Every time I write a song for Nile's Fear I try to do something like that, to make it interesting. Percussion is also exciting to see, as I use it a lot in my band's music, and it is thoroughly underated. -Jackson Nile's Fear


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Paradox		#12 Posted : 24 September 2009 08:34:24(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Yeah, we all had some kind of interest for non-metal music, Jose was just the one to get to release jazz earlier. And percussion is also quite interesting, particularly in your band, really great stuff -Erik, drums
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Paradox		#13 Posted : 28 September 2009 06:49:40(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		News on Oceans, the jazz project from Insolent Paradox's bass player. The debut album from this band will be out October 3rd. Jose and co will debut live on the Wireless Lounge October 9th The third single is now on the stores and this one is more experimental since it adds more Mid-Eastern and Latin influences. Tracklist is here Matter 7:08 No Number 2:49 Til Light 6:43 Jose Lugo - Electric and Acoustic Bass on all tracks, Vocals on all tracks, percussions on all tracks, Chapman Stick on Matter, Violins on Matter Laura Huse - Vocals on all tracks, Harp on all tracks Hector Apreza - Acoustic Guitar on all tracks, Cello on Matter Tulio Leon - Electric Guitar on all tracks Ron Orich - Keyboards and Piano on all tracks, Organ on Matter Jeff Gardner - Drums on all tracks, percussion on Matter and No Number Edy Garcia - Acoustic Guitar and flutes on all tracks Johnny Reed - Saxophones on Matter Edited by user 28 September 2009 06:52:31(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#14 Posted : 01 October 2009 11:30:11(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Update: A lot of things have been going on lately, Jose is about to release his debut with Oceans and about to make a presentation at Wireless Lounge, and we as a band have a DVD coming on our gig at the inaguration of the We Love Music Stadium, and finishing our tour for Memories, on more about Oceans here is the tracklist for the record and the artwork. And after this new record, and adter the end of the tour we are finishing the recording of our first conceptual album, it will be released somewhere on late October, title, artwork, setlist and first revealed tracks coming soon. -Erik - drums. Insolent Paradox Edited by user 04 October 2009 08:08:24(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#15 Posted : 02 October 2009 11:29:00(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		So it's been a long time since you heard any new material from the Paradox, well the thrash-heads will be surely satisfied by 'Steps' the first single from upcoming album, the band is only releasing this track accompanied by the remastered versions of Facing the Abyss and Perfectionist, Steps is supposed to be the opening song of this new album, it features a thrashing riff in the beginning, and then a instrumental section featuring heavy riffs, bass solos, and a guitar duel (mainly good ol' Paradox) oh and by the end it also has... keyboards played by Jose Lugo, giving it a proggy feeling after this long section vocals finally kick in, apparently they deal on the life of a small child told by a narrator (possibly and oldman), and the child himself, this kid is often ignored by his parents, an struggling couple ["drowning on his feelings, no one to share them with, vaccum as his only company"], he is rejected by other kids on his school, he is also ignored by his teachers and has no one to turn to, by the end of the song his father and his mother leave him on an orphanage ["I see their backs, they say it will be alright][alone he stands, as he always will"]. There is no solos/instrumental sections after the vocals start, Daniel Marquez, the vocalist shows an amazing range on this song, since he switches from a deep voice (almost on off), a thrash shriek (see Overkill), and some death growls. About the story, this track hints it will be following the life of the small kid, sadly only this track has been revealed so far, the b-sidess for Steps are two of the remastered songs from their previous albums. Some of the liner notes on the single: "we have been working on this album for a while now, the concept has been developing since before our first record, this track and many more have gone through tons of title changes, structure changes, re-writing the lyrics, etc." Erik, drums "the keyboard was an idea of Erik, it was to give it a more prog feeling to the song, we thought the song was too similar to what we have done previously, so we included them here, we also have some more surprises on songs but overall, it feels harder than Memories at some parts and it is far more eccletic, it has death and black metal influences, some jazz and blues, and even some industrial sounds, but overall it is still a thrash record, just probably one of the weirdest you've heard!" Daniel, guitar/vocals "Well, this might be our greatest album yet, it remains thrash and it include more things, it's been fun recording this, and then you have the plus of a great story" Hector, guitar Tracklist: Steps 9:53 Facing the Abyss (remastered) 8:02 Perfectionist (remastered) 4:39 Edited by user 02 October 2009 12:18:16(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#16 Posted : 03 October 2009 12:39:41(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Oceans to be released tomorrow Steps has gone #1 in South America Title and artwork revealed for upcoming album "Son", release date has also been set for October 22nd, setlist remains unveiled Edited by user 03 October 2009 12:41:15(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#17 Posted : 04 October 2009 08:57:12(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Oceans' album has been released along with a single for 'Clouds', a special edition signed by Jose Lugo and only available for special order was released including b-sides from past singles and previously unreleased track Clouds Single: Clouds Path to Nowhere II Hundred Tones [Bass Solo] Oceans - Oceans 1. Path to Nowhere 2. No Number 3. Light Years 4. Ghnrstd 5. Path to Nowhere II 6. Clouds 7. A Line 8. Matter 9. Run 10. Title Special Edition Bonus tracks: Hundred Tones Til Light Learn Toss Archer Beat Review: Well, a few metal band members have gone into jazz projects, most of these were rock oriented, a few more have created a weird blend of metal, jazz and avant-garde, Oceans stands in the middle of these, some tracks being jazz epics bordering on proggressive rock, and some more being avant-garde experimentationss, basically Insolent Paradox minus the heavy riffs, we also get to see a side of Jose Lugo deeply influenced by Jaco Pastorius and many similar jazz bassists. We have the record divided by the tracks titled Path to Nowhere, that work mainly as intros led by Jose's bass, the first half (tracks 1-4) is quite more jazzy and instrumental, with few vocals, the best track out of this is No Number, basically an instrumental with intrincate bass lines and keyboard arrangements also with great drums, then the second part (5-10) is mainly a tornado of influences very well mixed and featuring lyrics, with jazz and avant-garde being the main ingredients, Clouds is influenced by post-punk, A Line is another jazz track in the core, mixed with 60s rock, following this there is Matter one of the best tracks definitely, it is as stated before, Paradox without the heavy metal influence, this feeling continues on the next 2 tracks, Run being a combination of this jazz/avant-garde style with a Pink Floyd feel, then there is the first single Title being a perfect epilogue for the album. From the bonus tracks Hundred Tones is easily the best, on this album as a good jazz record you can see an amazing brass section, and besides that Oceans also have a great guitar (acoustic and electric) ensemble, definitely an amazing album, recommened for everyone. Personnel: Jose Lugo - bass, keyboards, vocals, synthetizers, percussions Laura Huse - vocals Hector Apreza - guitars, saxophone Paul Mensch - electric guitar Tulio Leon - electric guitar Ron Orich - piano, keyboards, organ Edy Garcia - acoustic guitar, flute Johnny Reed - saxophones, trumpet, trombone Toño Romano - drums, percussion Edited by user 04 October 2009 09:00:43(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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Paradox		#18 Posted : 05 October 2009 09:53:06(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		Update: The new album, "Son" has been moved to be released the 14th, a week earlier than it was originally scheduled, previous to the album 2 singles will be released, on the 7th and the 13th, also the special edition from Memories is still going stong since it re-entered the Top 40 charts worldwide 15 weeks after its release, the Oceans debut album entered the South American charts at #26 Edited by user 05 October 2009 09:57:17(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
		RP bands: Insolent Paradox - Progressive [Forum Thread] - Post-production Oceans - Fusion Jazz - Writing stephaniewazhere wrote: I'm failing? I'm failing??????? LMAO!!!!!! Mod Edit - you failed... Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.


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Paradox		#19 Posted : 07 October 2009 11:29:24(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 08/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,007 Location: cuernavaca, mexico		After the incredible good reception of the hard-prog epic Steps, here it is the 2nd track from long-awaited album "Son", entitled "Hell", this single's liner notes contain much more info on the new album, but we'll get on that later, this as 'Steps' this is released with 2 of their remastered songs as b-sides, this time it's turn for Insolent Paradox and Death and Beginning from their debut album, "Hell" starts with a short-drum solo, followed immediatly by the first verse, now we find our main character in the orphanage in which he was dumped, where he has few contact with other people, he is then adopted by a family [you shall be our child, we will treat you as our own, no more pain for you little soul], and he starts becoming a part of society for first time in his life, after this short lyric section, the first solo kicks in played by Daniel, it has some optimistic feel, reminding of Rush's 2112 calm guitar section, this solo slowly fades and a heavy, full of rage solo played by Hector kicks in, then once this guitar solos are done, the song stops and a drum-lead bridge leads to a part of heavy riffing, then vocals start again, Daniel sings from the child's perspective through this second vocal section, the son's adoptive father gets fired, at first there is no big deal and they keep hope, but slowly the adoptive father becomes an alcoholic, and he starts beating his wife and the small kid, one night he arrives drunker than ever and with a gun, the child locks himself in his room, gunshots are heard, then the adoptive mother gets to his room, this time she carries the gun, he speaks to the children telling him everything will get better and they will reunite with his father in heaven, he takes him out on the street pointing at him with a gun, passing by his drunken father's corpse, police sirens are heard, the band plays the outro, after some seconds of silence we hear gunshots again, this time without being cleared who was the shooter. Liner notes: "we are releasing the tracks in order can actually follow the story, and this track is extremely important to the story" Jose, bass "Hell is splitted in two parts a slow one, and a fast one, the cliffhanger is mind-blowing, when we finished writing it, we didnt knew how to continue the story" Erik, drums Tracklist: Hell 11:29 Insolent Paradox 5:05 Death and Beginning 13:07
		RP bands: Insolent Paradox - Progressive [Forum Thread] - Post-production Oceans - Fusion Jazz - Writing stephaniewazhere wrote: I'm failing? I'm failing??????? LMAO!!!!!! Mod Edit - you failed... Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.


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Aj		#20 Posted : 08 October 2009 04:51:23(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		Fucking killer! You guys are awesome. One of the best bands around now! You should be up for Birdies very soon! This is real music. Top stuff. Did I mention I really like you guys? Billy//Failed Youth
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