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Gildermershina wrote:I generally don't believe in, as a fan, defining where an artist I love has "lost it". Although most bands who have long enough careers do have that turning point where the music they make lacks the defining spark of earlier works. Even in those cases I understand why that's the case, and I can generally enjoy at least portions of new material.
Yes - I'll take 90125, I'll even take Big Generator, and you know what, throw in Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe, but from Union onwards that there's a series of horribly misguided attmepts to recapture both their long-form prog epics and their 80s pop hits resulting in a diabolical MOR Asia-esque sound.
Jon Anderson - Speaking of Yes... After the improbably great Olias of Sunhillow, featuring music of a quality Jon Anderson should not logically have been capable of producing, rivalling the quality of Yes' own mid 70s classics, he proceeds to release a bunch of albums he is capable of producing and they all turn out to be rubbish pop.
Rush - Rush are weird, because I feel like they tended to make not-so-good in amongst their good albums (most of Signals bores me, yet I love all of Grace Under Pressure), right back to the beginning of their career - but Presto was the last one that I think was great all the way through.
Pink Floyd - The last two Pink Floyd albums were patchy, and Roger Waters' solo stuff is superior in my eyes. There are some great moments on the Division Bell - they're just not very Pink Floyd. Could easily have been a great David Gilmour solo record instead.
The Prodigy - Fat of the Land was great, but then Liam Howlett got rich and complacent.
Meshuggah - I love I. I love Catch Thirty-Three less. ObZen I just can't get my head around at all. Something about it rubs me the wrong way.
Emerson Lake & Palmer - I go as far as Works Volume II, which, while phenomenally boring, at least doesn't make me cringe. Love Beach? No, just no.
Marilyn Manson - That great trilogy of Antichrist Superstar, Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood, those albums contain some genuinely great songwriting, great concepts, great presentation, it all really works for me. From the antagonistic shock rock and industrial stomping of AS, through the glam and synth of MA, to the earthy darkness of HW, the trilogy covers almost everything I ever wanted from music as a young teenager. They also seem to cover the rise and fall of the character of Manson. Then there was a weird burlesque thing fading uneventfully into dull goth industrial pop - and all the songs are saying things he already said ten years ago, in more interesting ways. I like Big Generator. After Drama, with the two Buggles, they suprised me a lot with BG. It was a fresh new sound. Olias of Sunhillow is a nice album, years later he made Friend or Friends of Mr. Cairo, its with Vangelis, i know, but i like the sound. Last best album from Pink Floyd was The Wall, indeed with Waters. The Pros and Cons, and Amused To Death are superb. And Rush, i think i like the first eight albums the most. I don't know whats the Cut Off point realy is. You never know. Dylan always suprises me, whatever he creates. Edited by user 12 October 2009 06:21:35(UTC)
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