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forkboy wrote:Gildermershina wrote:Plus of course, when I walk into a record store, I usually come out with something I wasn't looking for. Doesn't happen like that online. It can do. I mean not in the same way. But say you are in the record store and you see a CD and you go "fuck, I've want to hear that band for ages", it's hardly different to someone mentioning the same band and you go "fuck I've wanted to hear that band for ages" and then jumping onto megadownload.com Yeah, but online, you don't go "ooh, I'll get this one album on a whim" you go "ooh, I'll get these ten albums on a whim" which in my mind devalues the album because it's like you're auditioning music as part of an elimination process. |
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Gildermershina wrote:forkboy wrote:Gildermershina wrote:Plus of course, when I walk into a record store, I usually come out with something I wasn't looking for. Doesn't happen like that online. It can do. I mean not in the same way. But say you are in the record store and you see a CD and you go "fuck, I've want to hear that band for ages", it's hardly different to someone mentioning the same band and you go "fuck I've wanted to hear that band for ages" and then jumping onto megadownload.com Yeah, but online, you don't go "ooh, I'll get this one album on a whim" you go "ooh, I'll get these ten albums on a whim" which in my mind devalues the album because it's like you're auditioning music as part of an elimination process. Only rich people do that. Shit it takes me more almost a month to save up for one album.
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stephaniewazhere wrote:Gildermershina wrote:forkboy wrote:Gildermershina wrote:Plus of course, when I walk into a record store, I usually come out with something I wasn't looking for. Doesn't happen like that online. It can do. I mean not in the same way. But say you are in the record store and you see a CD and you go "fuck, I've want to hear that band for ages", it's hardly different to someone mentioning the same band and you go "fuck I've wanted to hear that band for ages" and then jumping onto megadownload.com Yeah, but online, you don't go "ooh, I'll get this one album on a whim" you go "ooh, I'll get these ten albums on a whim" which in my mind devalues the album because it's like you're auditioning music as part of an elimination process. Only rich people do that. Shit it takes me more almost a month to save up for one album. I was talking about stealing ten albums. The point is that the one that you buy, that gets more time and attention than the ten that you steal. And yes, controversially I do believe that listening is a skill, that actually takes time and effort. Edited by user 03 November 2009 08:50:45(UTC)
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Infinite Jester wrote:The decline of the independent/Mom-and-Pop record store (and the demise of physical music as well) is a real shame... great post! i'm also pissed that these stores are going out of business, some of my favorite places have been disappearing rapidly over the last two years. there's nothing quite like spending an hour or two in a basement full of records. |
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rihajarvi wrote:Infinite Jester wrote:The decline of the independent/Mom-and-Pop record store (and the demise of physical music as well) is a real shame... great post! i'm also pissed that these stores are going out of business, some of my favorite places have been disappearing rapidly over the last two years. there's nothing quite like spending an hour or two in a basement full of records. Cheers... :-) Amen to that...some people just don't get it, do they? Indie record stores just so much more than a tatty building with stuff you can buy in them-its a whole history, shared culture and experience. |
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Physical music is declining, yes, but I don't think the CD format is going away completely any time soon. There isn't as much money to be made from it, but with giants like HMV around they'll always be available. The only people suffering are the indie record stores, and the people who LIKE to buy the CD's they want from them, and of course the small artists themselves (not the huge artists, they're raking it in from big corporations). If given the choice, I'll go to the small store, not the massive chain of shops. The problem is that in order to stay in business the indie stores need to put their prices higher which puts off a lot of their potential customers - I like the indie stores specifically because they sell albums that you wouldn't be able to get without going online and if they don't have an album in stock you can have a personal chat with someone, who is just as interested in music as you are, about how to get it. I'm not too happy about buying online, because if I'm honest I'm impatient and hate having to wait for it come in the post!
I hope that CD doesn't end up in the same situation as vinyl, where there are a few enthusiasts but no real custom anymore, because the package on a whole is nice. Getting something from the internet and whacking it on your iPod isn't the same experience as buying an actual album. Of course I'd argue that, if it wasn't for superclean studio sound people crave, vinyl is the best format - just look at the size of the artwork, and then there's the record inside the sleeve! My biggest issue with downloading something is that the files are compressed and then compressed again and you're lacking so much of the quality you'd usually get - an mp3 just doesn't sound as full as a CD. And yes, sure I've downloaded illegally in the past, and will continue to do so occasionally in the future, but if I like an album from online then I know that I'll enjoy it so much more if I bought the physical copy.
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old.gregg wrote:Physical music is declining, yes, but I don't think the CD format is going away completely any time soon. There isn't as much money to be made from it, but with giants like HMV around they'll always be available. The only people suffering are the indie record stores, and the people who LIKE to buy the CD's they want from them, and of course the small artists themselves (not the huge artists, they're raking it in from big corporations). If given the choice, I'll go to the small store, not the massive chain of shops. The problem is that in order to stay in business the indie stores need to put their prices higher which puts off a lot of their potential customers - I like the indie stores specifically because they sell albums that you wouldn't be able to get without going online and if they don't have an album in stock you can have a personal chat with someone, who is just as interested in music as you are, about how to get it. I'm not too happy about buying online, because if I'm honest I'm impatient and hate having to wait for it come in the post!
I hope that CD doesn't end up in the same situation as vinyl, where there are a few enthusiasts but no real custom anymore, because the package on a whole is nice. Getting something from the internet and whacking it on your iPod isn't the same experience as buying an actual album. Of course I'd argue that, if it wasn't for superclean studio sound people crave, vinyl is the best format - just look at the size of the artwork, and then there's the record inside the sleeve! My biggest issue with downloading something is that the files are compressed and then compressed again and you're lacking so much of the quality you'd usually get - an mp3 just doesn't sound as full as a CD. And yes, sure I've downloaded illegally in the past, and will continue to do so occasionally in the future, but if I like an album from online then I know that I'll enjoy it so much more if I bought the physical copy.
That's all I got! The reason that Vinyl has survived is that it offers an experience you can't get in any other way, while the content on CDs, being digital, can be distributed over the internet 100% accurately (although nobody likes downloading 500MB) and perceptively accurately even more easily. CDs will die because there's no reason to keep producing a physical digital format when you can sell an ephemeral digital format like an MP3. And there's no reason to buy an ephemeral digital format when you can steal it after two minutes of googling russian blogger sites. |
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