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Offline troymazing  
#121 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:44:02(UTC)
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I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...
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#122 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:47:55(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
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Steph, I could understand if you think a god exists, I believe to an extent that perhaps something or someone made us, just not what christians believe. But if you believe god loves us, then some tough love. And why if it is tough love?


Who said you don;t have the right to I'm just talking about what I believe and what the bible says. I

It is tough love because our definition of love which comes from our heart not the dictionary is much different than his.


first of all, then it's not love which ever side you think is wrong, and secondly, what's the purpose then? why do you think we exist? What's point in god's "love" for us?


I don't quite get what you are saying here

The purpose, well like I have stated before God only wants you to know certain things, only him(the almighty) knows. The point of his love is because he's good, he's not evil like Satan, he wants you to go to heaven. And if he didn't have love obviously he wouldn't care.


Is it love, or is it just a selfish need of amusement? Or why do you think that this god even exists? What if we are all just termites in some kid's locker? Or maybe we are all a sand pebble on some bigger beach? Why do you think that we are necessarily some big creation by the "almighty"? We could be a video game possibly. And besides, if there is "evil" and "good", what makes you say "god" is good? Why do you think that there even is good or bad? Why is it that you are instantly attracted to anything that goes in a book that a bunch of people thought up because they had nothing else to base their beliefs other than their pathetic, useless emotions? Feelings are nothing but pure instinct, but they can also be triggered by delusions. You have no idea what kind of habitant and environment people who wrote the bible lived in. They had no health whatsoever, so their mental health affected their thoughts too.

I'm telling you. The bible was/is/and will always be a useless comforter for people. Nothing else. It is simply a fairytale.


This all goes back to God not wanting you to know everything. If he did, we would be as powerful as he is int he sense of knowledge. People don't understand that if you are a God, you have power over everyone. He HAS power over you.

The habitat they lived in had nothing to do with it, they accustomed to the habitat they lived in and that didn't effect them as much as you are exaggerating.

And Of course they are going to wonder about life, they don't feel safe. They are confused about life, and they then try to come up with theories as to how we came to earth. And when they hear about Christianity, they see it as a theory and won't put one bit of faith to it. Simply because in order for it to be proven to you that it is real, there is a process of self belief and they don't give that part a chance.

The bible was/is/and will always be a guide to salvation.

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#123 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:48:31(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm the only one here who is a Christian, and support the fact that God Loves you.

Erm, you're not the only Christian - asdf, sharinganerror, Thorgrim to name but a few, I'm sure there are more.

However, how much other Christians, on and off this board, would "support the fact that God Loves you" is debatable.

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#124 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:51:18(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
Steph, I could understand if you think a god exists, I believe to an extent that perhaps something or someone made us, just not what christians believe. But if you believe god loves us, then some tough love. And why if it is tough love?


Who said you don;t have the right to I'm just talking about what I believe and what the bible says. I

It is tough love because our definition of love which comes from our heart not the dictionary is much different than his.


first of all, then it's not love which ever side you think is wrong, and secondly, what's the purpose then? why do you think we exist? What's point in god's "love" for us?


I don't quite get what you are saying here

The purpose, well like I have stated before God only wants you to know certain things, only him(the almighty) knows. The point of his love is because he's good, he's not evil like Satan, he wants you to go to heaven. And if he didn't have love obviously he wouldn't care.


Is it love, or is it just a selfish need of amusement? Or why do you think that this god even exists? What if we are all just termites in some kid's locker? Or maybe we are all a sand pebble on some bigger beach? Why do you think that we are necessarily some big creation by the "almighty"? We could be a video game possibly. And besides, if there is "evil" and "good", what makes you say "god" is good? Why do you think that there even is good or bad? Why is it that you are instantly attracted to anything that goes in a book that a bunch of people thought up because they had nothing else to base their beliefs other than their pathetic, useless emotions? Feelings are nothing but pure instinct, but they can also be triggered by delusions. You have no idea what kind of habitant and environment people who wrote the bible lived in. They had no health whatsoever, so their mental health affected their thoughts too.

I'm telling you. The bible was/is/and will always be a useless comforter for people. Nothing else. It is simply a fairytale.


This all goes back to God not wanting you to know everything. If he did, we would be as powerful as he is int he sense of knowledge. People don't understand that if you are a God, you have power over everyone. He HAS power over you.

The habitat they lived in had nothing to do with it, they accustomed to the habitat they lived in and that didn't effect them as much as you are exaggerating.

And Of course they are going to wonder about life, they don't feel safe. They are confused about life, and they then try to come up with theories as to how we came to earth. And when they hear about Christianity, they see it as a theory and won't put one bit of faith to it. Simply because in order for it to be proven to you that it is real, there is a process of self belief and they don't give that part a chance.

The bible was/is/and will always be a guide to salvation.



That is exactly why your religion is full of flaws. You try to cover them up by trying to make your religion still look right. The only reason why people said that is because they had no answer for some of the things that were going on that can now be proven scientifically/philosophically.
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#125 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:51:53(UTC)
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troymazing wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...


100% proof to show how begin gay was hard for me. I am simply just confused and by going to church I will be straightened(literally) out. You're just once again trying to throw me off and epically failing at it.
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#126 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:54:36(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...


100% proof to show how begin gay was hard for me. I am simply just confused and by going to church I will be straightened(literally) out. You're just once again trying to throw me off and epically failing at it.


Look, if ya like a bit of bum, ya like it a bit of bum. Ain't no good tryin to hide it away.
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#127 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:55:48(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...


100% proof to show how begin gay was hard for me. I am simply just confused and by going to church I will be straightened(literally) out. You're just once again trying to throw me off and epically failing at it.


Steph, it's your decision, a very dumb one, but it's yours. People can argue with it, but it's your choice, don't let them get to you.

I'm not on anybody's side. I'm willing to take anyone here down a long thread of arguments myself, but really, just let him/her (I don't even know anymore, with all the lies) do what he/she wants.
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#128 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:59:43(UTC)
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Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
Steph, I could understand if you think a god exists, I believe to an extent that perhaps something or someone made us, just not what christians believe. But if you believe god loves us, then some tough love. And why if it is tough love?


Who said you don;t have the right to I'm just talking about what I believe and what the bible says. I

It is tough love because our definition of love which comes from our heart not the dictionary is much different than his.


first of all, then it's not love which ever side you think is wrong, and secondly, what's the purpose then? why do you think we exist? What's point in god's "love" for us?


I don't quite get what you are saying here

The purpose, well like I have stated before God only wants you to know certain things, only him(the almighty) knows. The point of his love is because he's good, he's not evil like Satan, he wants you to go to heaven. And if he didn't have love obviously he wouldn't care.


Is it love, or is it just a selfish need of amusement? Or why do you think that this god even exists? What if we are all just termites in some kid's locker? Or maybe we are all a sand pebble on some bigger beach? Why do you think that we are necessarily some big creation by the "almighty"? We could be a video game possibly. And besides, if there is "evil" and "good", what makes you say "god" is good? Why do you think that there even is good or bad? Why is it that you are instantly attracted to anything that goes in a book that a bunch of people thought up because they had nothing else to base their beliefs other than their pathetic, useless emotions? Feelings are nothing but pure instinct, but they can also be triggered by delusions. You have no idea what kind of habitant and environment people who wrote the bible lived in. They had no health whatsoever, so their mental health affected their thoughts too.

I'm telling you. The bible was/is/and will always be a useless comforter for people. Nothing else. It is simply a fairytale.


This all goes back to God not wanting you to know everything. If he did, we would be as powerful as he is int he sense of knowledge. People don't understand that if you are a God, you have power over everyone. He HAS power over you.

The habitat they lived in had nothing to do with it, they accustomed to the habitat they lived in and that didn't effect them as much as you are exaggerating.

And Of course they are going to wonder about life, they don't feel safe. They are confused about life, and they then try to come up with theories as to how we came to earth. And when they hear about Christianity, they see it as a theory and won't put one bit of faith to it. Simply because in order for it to be proven to you that it is real, there is a process of self belief and they don't give that part a chance.

The bible was/is/and will always be a guide to salvation.



That is exactly why your religion is full of flaws. You try to cover them up by trying to make your religion still look right. The only reason why people said that is because they had no answer for some of the things that were going on that can now be proven scientifically/philosophically.



Full of flaws? why because you can't know everything. You're just simply criticizing God, that's all you're doing.
That's why those who try to find out how we got here, haven't gotten any luck, because there is only one way, and that is that God made the world and made Adam and Eve and God will not allow us to know everything.


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#129 Posted : 06 December 2009 08:03:47(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
Steph, I could understand if you think a god exists, I believe to an extent that perhaps something or someone made us, just not what christians believe. But if you believe god loves us, then some tough love. And why if it is tough love?


Who said you don;t have the right to I'm just talking about what I believe and what the bible says. I

It is tough love because our definition of love which comes from our heart not the dictionary is much different than his.


first of all, then it's not love which ever side you think is wrong, and secondly, what's the purpose then? why do you think we exist? What's point in god's "love" for us?


I don't quite get what you are saying here

The purpose, well like I have stated before God only wants you to know certain things, only him(the almighty) knows. The point of his love is because he's good, he's not evil like Satan, he wants you to go to heaven. And if he didn't have love obviously he wouldn't care.


Is it love, or is it just a selfish need of amusement? Or why do you think that this god even exists? What if we are all just termites in some kid's locker? Or maybe we are all a sand pebble on some bigger beach? Why do you think that we are necessarily some big creation by the "almighty"? We could be a video game possibly. And besides, if there is "evil" and "good", what makes you say "god" is good? Why do you think that there even is good or bad? Why is it that you are instantly attracted to anything that goes in a book that a bunch of people thought up because they had nothing else to base their beliefs other than their pathetic, useless emotions? Feelings are nothing but pure instinct, but they can also be triggered by delusions. You have no idea what kind of habitant and environment people who wrote the bible lived in. They had no health whatsoever, so their mental health affected their thoughts too.

I'm telling you. The bible was/is/and will always be a useless comforter for people. Nothing else. It is simply a fairytale.


This all goes back to God not wanting you to know everything. If he did, we would be as powerful as he is int he sense of knowledge. People don't understand that if you are a God, you have power over everyone. He HAS power over you.

The habitat they lived in had nothing to do with it, they accustomed to the habitat they lived in and that didn't effect them as much as you are exaggerating.

And Of course they are going to wonder about life, they don't feel safe. They are confused about life, and they then try to come up with theories as to how we came to earth. And when they hear about Christianity, they see it as a theory and won't put one bit of faith to it. Simply because in order for it to be proven to you that it is real, there is a process of self belief and they don't give that part a chance.

The bible was/is/and will always be a guide to salvation.



That is exactly why your religion is full of flaws. You try to cover them up by trying to make your religion still look right. The only reason why people said that is because they had no answer for some of the things that were going on that can now be proven scientifically/philosophically.



Full of flaws? why because you can't know everything. You're just simply criticizing God, that's all you're doing.
That's why those who try to find out how we got here, haven't gotten any luck, because there is only one way, and that is that God made the world and made Adam and Eve and God will not allow us to know everything.





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#130 Posted : 06 December 2009 08:04:52(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...


100% proof to show how begin gay was hard for me. I am simply just confused and by going to church I will be straightened(literally) out. You're just once again trying to throw me off and epically failing at it.


Or 100% proof that you are in fact a compulsive liar aided by the anonymity that is the internet. I don't want to throw you off God's path (not that there is a path to been thrown off of). I would love it if you accepted your sexuality, learned to either make it work with religion (as many have done) or move away from your religion, and then live a happy guilt free life. It isn't emotionally healthy for you to pass off your sexual feelings as "confusion" especially when 10 years down the road you are going to see a man and feel attracted to him and have to deal with this all over again because you can't be magically "cured" of being gay.
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#131 Posted : 06 December 2009 08:45:26(UTC)
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TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I am not gay I am confused and God will help me out.


That is one of the most ignorant and offensive things I have ever seen you post. Science has begun to understand sexuality on a more scinetific level (vs. a psychological level) and one thing is becoming clear: Sexuality is not something you choose, it is a trait (likely genetic) that you cannot influence. You have posted before that you were gay, then later you changed that to bisexual because you find women attractive, and now you are just confused and not gay at all. Really? How am I supposed to believe you at all? You just made a statement that has in effect told gay people that their feelings are not real, just a product of confusion, and contradicted yourself yet again. Bravo!


Yeah. A couple months ago he was pretending to be a girl...


100% proof to show how begin gay was hard for me. I am simply just confused and by going to church I will be straightened(literally) out. You're just once again trying to throw me off and epically failing at it.


Or 100% proof that you are in fact a compulsive liar aided by the anonymity that is the internet. I don't want to throw you off God's path (not that there is a path to been thrown off of). I would love it if you accepted your sexuality, learned to either make it work with religion (as many have done) or move away from your religion, and then live a happy guilt free life. It isn't emotionally healthy for you to pass off your sexual feelings as "confusion" especially when 10 years down the road you are going to see a man and feel attracted to him and have to deal with this all over again because you can't be magically "cured" of being gay.



One thing for sure is that I have admitted my lies (Which many on here wouldn't even do and even from me doing that it does not matter at all this is a forum) and when I did admitted my big lie which was being a woman, it gave me a sense of relief to tell the truth. I vision myself in Ten years being a clean, healthy stress less person who is happy with his real son or daughter and providing a good life, something I didn't have growing up. And in the faith of the lord and beliveing in him have my ticket to heaven.
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Leave it alone, no Christian will be convinced of God not existing, and no Atheist will ever believe that he does because of something we say. But when you are staring at the face of Satan as your burn in Hell, you may just wish you had reconsidered. If I'm wrong, it just means I will die, if you are, you burn for eternity.
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Let he who is righteous, be righteous still, and let he who is filthy, be filthy still.

Leave it alone, no Christian will be convinced of God not existing, and no Atheist will ever believe that he does because of something we say. But when you are staring at the face of Satan as your burn in Hell, you may just wish you had reconsidered. If I'm wrong, it just means I will die, if you are, you burn for eternity.


So I'll burn in eternity for not wishing to praise a god that lets 25,000 CHILDREN die each day because of poverty?

You know what? Good. If that's his idea of love and being fair, you know what? I'll go sell my soul to the devil tomorrow.
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#134 Posted : 06 December 2009 09:22:00(UTC)
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#135 Posted : 06 December 2009 09:24:38(UTC)
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Let he who is righteous, be righteous still, and let he who is filthy, be filthy still.

Leave it alone, no Christian will be convinced of God not existing, and no Atheist will ever believe that he does because of something we say. But when you are staring at the face of Satan as your burn in Hell, you may just wish you had reconsidered. If I'm wrong, it just means I will die, if you are, you burn for eternity.


So I'll burn in eternity for not wishing to praise a god that lets 25,000 CHILDREN die each day because of poverty?

You know what? Good. If that's his idea of love and being fair, you know what? I'll go sell my soul to the devil tomorrow.


God is not the reason 25,000 children die, the humans are.
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Aj wrote:
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Let he who is righteous, be righteous still, and let he who is filthy, be filthy still.

Leave it alone, no Christian will be convinced of God not existing, and no Atheist will ever believe that he does because of something we say. But when you are staring at the face of Satan as your burn in Hell, you may just wish you had reconsidered. If I'm wrong, it just means I will die, if you are, you burn for eternity.


So I'll burn in eternity for not wishing to praise a god that lets 25,000 CHILDREN die each day because of poverty?

You know what? Good. If that's his idea of love and being fair, you know what? I'll go sell my soul to the devil tomorrow.


God is not the reason 25,000 children die, the humans are.


God is the reason the humans are capable of such a thing.
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When they die they go to Heaven, and are comforted by our Lord Jesus, so maybe its not as bad as it sounds. Besides, Satans control over people is the reason that they die, not God. If he just went around fixing everything, there would have been no point in Jesus dying, being judged when time ends, and the whole of Gods work would be for naught. You dont get it, there is so much more than you realize, its a very deep subject, and you are only thinking of the shallow arguements with out thinking of the deep meanings.
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#138 Posted : 06 December 2009 09:29:00(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
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Aj wrote:
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Let he who is righteous, be righteous still, and let he who is filthy, be filthy still.

Leave it alone, no Christian will be convinced of God not existing, and no Atheist will ever believe that he does because of something we say. But when you are staring at the face of Satan as your burn in Hell, you may just wish you had reconsidered. If I'm wrong, it just means I will die, if you are, you burn for eternity.


So I'll burn in eternity for not wishing to praise a god that lets 25,000 CHILDREN die each day because of poverty?

You know what? Good. If that's his idea of love and being fair, you know what? I'll go sell my soul to the devil tomorrow.


God is not the reason 25,000 children die, the humans are.


God is the reason the humans are capable of such a thing.


Ok. Obviously, that doesn't change the fact god loves them.
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#139 Posted : 06 December 2009 09:31:14(UTC)
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God is laughing at the fact that yet another set of puny humans are disrespecting his powers and giving St. Peter a call to let him know he's got a few more for hell.
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#140 Posted : 06 December 2009 09:32:03(UTC)
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God gave us a chance, to do right, he lets us do whatever we choose, and then we are judged for it. He told us whats right, and whats wrong, he lets us choose, if you choose wrong, you will be punished, if you do right by Him, you are rewarded. Its the game of choice, and we are lucky enough to have free choice.

As for his letting it happen, again if he fixed it all, it would ruin the plan stated above. All will be fixed in the end, and everyone will get whats coming to them.
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