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asdf wrote:Rincewind wrote:asdf wrote:I read the Bible, and thats what it says. I have read many books about the Bible, both supporting it, and those who discourage it. Hell may not be in the Bible by the name Hell, but it is there in many different names around the world and in other languages. Either way, this is what the Christians believe, no matter how it got there, and considering its been there in the old and new Testaments at one point or another, then I find it hard to disclaim it. so the fact that a bunch of bishops added something that wasn't there before just to rack up more support doesn't bother you? The bishops didnt add it to the Old Testament and its there too, and therefore I believe in its existence. It also appears in Revelation. IT doesnt matter though, because all Hell is is a prison that you serve your time in until Rapture, when you are either judged to be let into Heaven for paying your dues, or you soul is cast away into oblivion for either committing an unforgivable sin, or not repenting and feeling different opinions during your time in Hell. the Old testament is basicly the five books of moses in the Torah... When i say that what i mean is it is a badly translated and heavily edited version of the five books of moses.... so once again yes... i do think they added it to the old testiment seeing as i have allready said...... Judaism does not have the Christian Hell.. it is a later addition by bishops... |
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Thorgrim wrote:asdf wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? No, no one but God knows, not even the highest Angel knows. I was being sarcastic. The whole idea of premillenialism is probably the singles most retarded thing protestants have ever come up with. I find it shocking that so many Americans believe the crap as described by fundamentalists like Tim LaHaye and the late great Jerry Falwell. Paradox wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? I read it was December 14th, I hope satan is a fine person Fuckin' hell, that means I won't be able to have my birthday party on the 18th. :'( Why not? You will still be in existence, either with Jesus or Satan, on the 18th... |
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stephaniewazhere wrote:Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Also if you go to hell you get one more chance, I forgot where it says it on Revelations. Something about cutting your head. Wait, if I go to hell, I'll have to cut my head off to go to heaven?! It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. so a god who is all knowing, all loving and all powerfull can't do anything about it? No because that's the promise he made. Once Jesus picks up his people, The Devil owns you. God doesn't lie or brake promises. This.
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Paradox wrote:asdf wrote:Paradox wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? I read it was December 14th, I hope satan is a fine person Not unless you want those boils and whip marks on your skin. So I actually get to keep my body?, that's smashing Perhaps you should read the above posts on this above before dragging it up again eh? |
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But, Rince, I am not Jewish, and do in fact believe in the existance of Hell, and that is why I am arguing about it. |
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Not quite, since I'm pretty sure there won't be a rapture on the eighteenth. Catholics are not premillenialists, in case you didn't know that.
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asdf wrote:Thorgrim wrote:asdf wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? No, no one but God knows, not even the highest Angel knows. I was being sarcastic. The whole idea of premillenialism is probably the singles most retarded thing protestants have ever come up with. I find it shocking that so many Americans believe the crap as described by fundamentalists like Tim LaHaye and the late great Jerry Falwell. Paradox wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? I read it was December 14th, I hope satan is a fine person Fuckin' hell, that means I won't be able to have my birthday party on the 18th. :'( Why not? You will still be in existence, either with Jesus or Satan, on the 18th... Getting drunk with either jesus or satan would be brutal, damn I already had my birthday party, do you have sort of a break from eternal suffering in hell? |
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stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! |
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You are an utter fool, I have all ready told you the issues on the idea of partying with Satan...it wont be happening...but still you insist on posting without knowing any of the previous conversations....ugghh. |
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Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! Don't trust Greeks! They invented gayness!
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asdf wrote:Thorgrim wrote:So anybody know when the rapture is due? No, no one but God knows, not even the highest Angel knows. It was due at about the end of the 1st century AD. And throughout the second and third century. Because Christianity was essentially an end-times apocalyptic Jewish cult in the very days. But then most Christians are essentially ignorant of the early days of religion because, despite them being fascinating, if you believe in biblical semi-literalism then you really don't want to know about the way the bible was actually stitched together from a whole mish-mash of various books that were dismissed by the bishops at various councils. I'd post a link to allow you to read up on this but apparently you don't believe anything at all on the internet so I merely suggest you go to a library and ...wait, no. Don't do that. Because people who public books can actually lie as well. Like in the Bible? |
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asdf wrote:But, Rince, I am not Jewish, and do in fact believe in the existance of Hell, and that is why I am arguing about it. i think you are missing the point of my argument... Maybe because i am not wording it correctly, maybe because you don't want to listen to what i am saying.... Hell is an invention that only came about at the earlist 80 odd years after Jesus died. Christianity is the bastard child of Judaism, so if the big daddy doesn't mention it but the child does then it has clearly been added somewhere.. if they had added in that every tuesday you had to have sex with a dog or go to hell.... would you believe that as well? |
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Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! First off, what John said, had been stated long before him as well. But, yes, it is faith, something you do not have, but we carry as a light on our shoulders proudly awaiting the coming of our Lord Jesus, it is faith. Faith in God, and our fellow man. Faith, and allegiance to Jesus. |
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Thorgrim wrote:Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! Don't trust Greeks! They invented gayness! I thought it was the romans, Neron got married with a guy several times |
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Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! What does that have to do with Faith, I only have faith that I'm safe and I will go to heaven, everything else is pure fact for me. And faith is something you don't have. Edited by user 07 December 2009 08:54:18(UTC)
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asdf wrote:Rincewind wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:Raphaela wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote:It's not like God choose to do it that way. And yes that is Satan's rule. Once you go to hell Satan owns you. What's the point of going to heaven if you don't have a head, then? You don't have to answer that, I just needed to say it. Matter fact I do :P Um, when you go to heaven, no one really knows how you are going to look like, we might not even have a head or arms or feet. But we will have a soul that will feel no pain whatsoever. John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. your going to believe the words of a Greek who was writing 100 years after Jesus died? now thats faith! First off, what John said, had been stated long before him as well. But, yes, it is faith, something you do not have, but we carry as a light on our shoulders proudly awaiting the coming of our Lord Jesus, it is faith. Faith in God, and our fellow man. Faith, and allegiance to Jesus. im only responding to the quotes that are thrown out... If she... he.. lets be honest i have no idea what sex steph is so im just going to call it it... if it had quoted from a different Gospel i would have responded in a different way. |
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asdf wrote:Thorgrim wrote:Not quite, since I'm pretty sure there won't be a rapture on the eighteenth. Catholics are not premillenialists, in case you didn't know that. I was only responding to the idea of if it did happen on the 14th. Exactly and it says on the bible, he would come when its least expected Matthew 24:36 concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son (which is Jesus), but the Father (Which is God) only.
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