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Offline Raphaela  
#41 Posted : 18 December 2009 04:36:10(UTC)
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#42 Posted : 18 December 2009 05:47:24(UTC)
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Just a correction, Steph. Rihanna did actually write Wait Your Turn, Rockstar 101 and Rude Boy, love her and the new album. :)

Anyway, my fav songs of the year would be:

Alexandra Burke - Bad Boys/Broken Heels
Britney Spears - 3
Rihanna - Rude Boy/Fire Bomb/Hard/Russian Roulette
Adam Lambert - Fever
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Lady GaGa - Bad Romance/Telephone/Dance in the Dark/Teeth
Eva Simons - Silly Boy
BoA - I Did It for Love/Energetic/Obsessed

And I'll throw in a bit of Jeffree Star, I quite liked his album.


Fever is AMAZING, written by Gaga of course :)
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#43 Posted : 18 December 2009 06:02:43(UTC)
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GirlSpice wrote:
Just a correction, Steph. Rihanna did actually write Wait Your Turn, Rockstar 101 and Rude Boy, love her and the new album. :)

Anyway, my fav songs of the year would be:

Alexandra Burke - Bad Boys/Broken Heels
Britney Spears - 3
Rihanna - Rude Boy/Fire Bomb/Hard/Russian Roulette
Adam Lambert - Fever
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Lady GaGa - Bad Romance/Telephone/Dance in the Dark/Teeth
Eva Simons - Silly Boy
BoA - I Did It for Love/Energetic/Obsessed

And I'll throw in a bit of Jeffree Star, I quite liked his album.


Fever is AMAZING, written by Gaga of course :)


I knowww, my fav song from the album, although the rest of the songs are pretty good. :D
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#44 Posted : 18 December 2009 06:07:22(UTC)
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In my humble opinion:

5. Headcrusher - Megadeth
4. A Looking In View - Alice in Chains
3. Starting Over- Killswitch Engage
2. Oblivion - Mastodon


And number 1 is...

Unnatural Selection - Muse
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Offline Laurelles1  
#45 Posted : 18 December 2009 06:19:39(UTC)
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Laurelles1 wrote:
In my humble opinion:

5. Headcrusher - Megadeth
4. A Looking In View - Alice in Chains
3. Starting Over- Killswitch Engage
2. Oblivion - Mastodon


And number 1 is...

Unnatural Selection - Muse


Forgot to add honourable mentions:

Pray For Villains - DevilDriver
Hard To See - Five Finger Death Punch (awesome name :D)
Pussy - Rammstein
Sweet Dispositions - The Temper Trap
Queensbury Rules - Gallows
Smash The Pinata - Mammal
As The Deities Clash - Waylander
Flag In The Ground - Sonata Artica
Psychosocial - Slipknot (Not usually a Slipknot fan, but this was awesome)
That Golden Rule - Biffy Clyro
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Best Band - Mind
Best Album - Shattered Fairytale by Mind
Technical Ecstasy - Jason Smith (x3)
Best Solo Male - Jason Smith
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Best Producer - Jason Smith

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Offline Gildermershina  
#46 Posted : 18 December 2009 06:21:14(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.
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Offline Aj  
#47 Posted : 18 December 2009 08:05:08(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
Well obviously it's maudlin of the Well's epic Excerpt from 6,000,000,000,000 Miles Before the First, or, the Revisitation of the Blue Ghost.


Was that meant to be a joke ? :L

It's just I actually downloaded it when you told us to, and I preferred Rose Quartz Turning To Glass personally.
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#48 Posted : 18 December 2009 08:42:49(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
Well obviously it's maudlin of the Well's epic Excerpt from 6,000,000,000,000 Miles Before the First, or, the Revisitation of the Blue Ghost.


Was that meant to be a joke ? :L

It's just I actually downloaded it when you told us to, and I preferred Rose Quartz Turning To Glass personally.


No, I'm being serious. That song is the best new song I've heard this year. By a fairly large margin.
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#49 Posted : 18 December 2009 08:45:08(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
Aj wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
Well obviously it's maudlin of the Well's epic Excerpt from 6,000,000,000,000 Miles Before the First, or, the Revisitation of the Blue Ghost.


Was that meant to be a joke ? :L

It's just I actually downloaded it when you told us to, and I preferred Rose Quartz Turning To Glass personally.


No, I'm being serious. That song is the best new song I've heard this year. By a fairly large margin.


Oh okay, fair enough. It's just I thought you were being sarcastic, but fair enough. It's a good album.
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#50 Posted : 18 December 2009 08:55:56(UTC)
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Aj wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
Aj wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
Well obviously it's maudlin of the Well's epic Excerpt from 6,000,000,000,000 Miles Before the First, or, the Revisitation of the Blue Ghost.


Was that meant to be a joke ? :L

It's just I actually downloaded it when you told us to, and I preferred Rose Quartz Turning To Glass personally.


No, I'm being serious. That song is the best new song I've heard this year. By a fairly large margin.


Oh okay, fair enough. It's just I thought you were being sarcastic, but fair enough. It's a good album.


There's something about Kayo Dot that I just totally get, and of course Kayo Dot evolved from the dissolving ashes of maudlin of the Well, so when Toby Driver announced that they'd recorded a new album of miscellaneous material dating back to the maudlin/Kayo Dot switchover, with funding from fans, and that it was literally out now for free, only about a year after the last Kayo Dot... It was a nice surprise.

Kayo Dot seemed to me to be the first "progressive rock" band in quite some time to actually be progressive, yet still have that hallmark of the classical composition in a rock format.

I mean sure, Yes are still around, but they haven't done anything particularly interesting in at least 25 years.

Also, it's probably my album of the year.

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Offline Paradox  
#51 Posted : 18 December 2009 10:14:17(UTC)
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#52 Posted : 18 December 2009 11:50:22(UTC)
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Laurelles1 wrote:

And number 1 is...

Unnatural Selection - Muse


Shit man, totally agree with you on this!
Hope this would be the next single...
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#53 Posted : 18 December 2009 12:29:58(UTC)
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GirlSpice wrote:
Just a correction, Steph. Rihanna did actually write Wait Your Turn, Rockstar 101 and Rude Boy, love her and the new album. :)

Anyway, my fav songs of the year would be:

Alexandra Burke - Bad Boys/Broken Heels
Britney Spears - 3
Rihanna - Rude Boy/Fire Bomb/Hard/Russian Roulette
Adam Lambert - Fever
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Lady GaGa - Bad Romance/Telephone/Dance in the Dark/Teeth
Eva Simons - Silly Boy
BoA - I Did It for Love/Energetic/Obsessed

And I'll throw in a bit of Jeffree Star, I quite liked his album.


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Offline TishaJackson!!!!  
#54 Posted : 18 December 2009 12:31:06(UTC)
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troymazing wrote:
I don't really get why Steph is laughing because most if not all of the songs Tisha named are better than She Wolf... which by the way is NOT the pop song of the decade.


At least somebody knows real music.
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#55 Posted : 18 December 2009 14:22:20(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.

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#56 Posted : 18 December 2009 14:35:40(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.


What about Sam Endicott and John Hill, the two people who wrote "She Wolf" with Shakira, and John Hill also served as producer with her. I don't think its fair to ignore those two people, especially considering we don't know how much of the producing or writing they did. For all we know Endicott and Hill wrote and produced 90% of the song. Also I don't get why using "lycanthropy" in a song for the first time is a big deal but using "antrozoology" or any other word is not.
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#57 Posted : 18 December 2009 14:52:49(UTC)
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TheCDs wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.


What about Sam Endicott and John Hill, the two people who wrote "She Wolf" with Shakira, and John Hill also served as producer with her. I don't think its fair to ignore those two people, especially considering we don't know how much of the producing or writing they did. For all we know Endicott and Hill wrote and produced 90% of the song. Also I don't get why using "lycanthropy" in a song for the first time is a big deal but using "antrozoology" or any other word is not.


For your information Shakira took over production as she said in an interview, she in fact did 80% of the hard work. She wasn't feeling the song so she had to basically take over. And I totally believe that because many producers have called her bossy but they said that's a good thing.
Shakira was also extremely involved in the "Loba" song. According to the Shakira the writers helped her out with the chorus. They were confused as to used "Wardrobe" or "closet" and translating the word "Loba" correctly. "Wolf Woman just didn't sound catchy". The chorus only took 10 minutes to write.


Shakira began writing her own songs since she was 4 years old. She worked her way up. She wrote without any help whatsoever her first two albums (Which where very underrated and were considered flops). It is no shock to a Shakira fan that Shakira wrote her own song, yet it is a shock to the wrold because she's consiered a Pop artist.

There are many thing you don't know about Shakira that I can go on forever about, but either way you guys will still have something to say, so there is no point.

Any more assupmtions.....



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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.


What about Sam Endicott and John Hill, the two people who wrote "She Wolf" with Shakira, and John Hill also served as producer with her. I don't think its fair to ignore those two people, especially considering we don't know how much of the producing or writing they did. For all we know Endicott and Hill wrote and produced 90% of the song. Also I don't get why using "lycanthropy" in a song for the first time is a big deal but using "antrozoology" or any other word is not.


For your information Shakira took over production as she said in an interview, she in fact did 80% of the hard work. She wasn't feeling the song so she had to basically take over. And I totally believe that because many producers have called her bossy but they said that's a good thing.
Shakira was also extremely involved in the "Loba" song. According to the Shakira the writers helped her out with the chorus. They were confused as to used "Wardrobe" or "closet" and translating the word "Loba" correctly. "Wolf Woman just didn't sound catchy". The chorus only took 10 minutes to write.


Shakira began writing her own songs since she was 4 years old. She worked her way up. She wrote without any help whatsoever her first two albums (Which where very underrated and were considered flops). It is no shock to a Shakira fan that Shakira wrote her own song, yet it is a shock to the wrold because she's consiered a Pop artist.

There are many thing you don't know about Shakira that I can go on forever about, but either way you guys will still have something to say, so there is no point.

Any more assupmtions.....





Show me proof that she did 80% of the work for that song. I am not shocked that she wrote her own song because well, she didn't. If she wrote her own song there wouldn't be any other people credited on it. There were two other songwriters credited and one more producer. According to Shakira isn't really great proof either because no self-respecting artist is going to come out and say "Oh yea the songwriters totally did most of the work."
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#59 Posted : 18 December 2009 15:02:26(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.


What about Sam Endicott and John Hill, the two people who wrote "She Wolf" with Shakira, and John Hill also served as producer with her. I don't think its fair to ignore those two people, especially considering we don't know how much of the producing or writing they did. For all we know Endicott and Hill wrote and produced 90% of the song. Also I don't get why using "lycanthropy" in a song for the first time is a big deal but using "antrozoology" or any other word is not.


For your information Shakira took over production as she said in an interview, she in fact did 80% of the hard work. She wasn't feeling the song so she had to basically take over. And I totally believe that because many producers have called her bossy but they said that's a good thing.
Shakira was also extremely involved in the "Loba" song. According to the Shakira the writers helped her out with the chorus. They were confused as to used "Wardrobe" or "closet" and translating the word "Loba" correctly. "Wolf Woman just didn't sound catchy". The chorus only took 10 minutes to write.


Shakira began writing her own songs since she was 4 years old. She worked her way up. She wrote without any help whatsoever her first two albums (Which where very underrated and were considered flops). It is no shock to a Shakira fan that Shakira wrote her own song, yet it is a shock to the wrold because she's consiered a Pop artist.

There are many thing you don't know about Shakira that I can go on forever about, but either way you guys will still have something to say, so there is no point.

Any more assupmtions.....





Show me proof that she did 80% of the work for that song. I am not shocked that she wrote her own song because well, she didn't. If she wrote her own song there wouldn't be any other people credited on it. There were two other songwriters credited and one more producer. According to Shakira isn't really great proof either because no self-respecting artist is going to come out and say "Oh yea the songwriters totally did most of the work."



She took pictures, you can find them on her twitter. She also has video footage on her album. Like I said you don't know Shakira's life story so you're going to find it hard to believe. I don't care anyway, because I know for a fact she wrote the song "She wolf".



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Big whoop???????? it took three months to make the track you idiot. Shakira writes and produces her own songs, she has videos to prove it and even the producers when asked have called her a good producer. SHE WOLF IS THE FIRST POP SONG TO USE THE WORD LYCANTHROPY and howling. And You obviously don't know her life story.


It is not the first pop song to use Lycanthropy, nor howling. Patrick wolf put out an album called Lycanthropy in 2003. Friggin' Howlin' Wolf had a world famous wolf-howl back in the 50s. Either way, who cares? What if I recorded a song and it was the first song to ever use the word "Anthrozoology". So what? What if I recorded a song which had a fart in it, and people thought it was the first fart to ever appear in a song. So what? What if it takes me ten years to record my song. What if I play all the instruments myself. What if I literally carve the name of the song into my chest, and then photograph that and that's the cover of the single? What if, in order to make the song, I literally broke all of the bones in my body one by one just to see what it felt like? So what? Big whoop. My song could still be crap.



I wouldn't consider him a Pop artist. Yeah he has a few "pop" songs but they fall into the indie genre and his song "Lycanthropy" is no where near considered a Pop song.
I almost couldn't even find it on youtube except for a performance of it. And Of course you are going to say "Big whoop". Because you're trying to make it sound like the song "She Wolf" isn't a big deal. And it is. In top of that, the examples you're using don't even compare to what I'm talking about. You're trying to make it seem like it doesn't take hard work to make a song like "She wolf" and I really don't appreciate that. You seem to not appreciate hard work in the music industry just because it is pop. And musically I don't respect you anymore. I thought you were more open minded about music but you are not.


What about Sam Endicott and John Hill, the two people who wrote "She Wolf" with Shakira, and John Hill also served as producer with her. I don't think its fair to ignore those two people, especially considering we don't know how much of the producing or writing they did. For all we know Endicott and Hill wrote and produced 90% of the song. Also I don't get why using "lycanthropy" in a song for the first time is a big deal but using "antrozoology" or any other word is not.


For your information Shakira took over production as she said in an interview, she in fact did 80% of the hard work. She wasn't feeling the song so she had to basically take over. And I totally believe that because many producers have called her bossy but they said that's a good thing.
Shakira was also extremely involved in the "Loba" song. According to the Shakira the writers helped her out with the chorus. They were confused as to used "Wardrobe" or "closet" and translating the word "Loba" correctly. "Wolf Woman just didn't sound catchy". The chorus only took 10 minutes to write.


Shakira began writing her own songs since she was 4 years old. She worked her way up. She wrote without any help whatsoever her first two albums (Which where very underrated and were considered flops). It is no shock to a Shakira fan that Shakira wrote her own song, yet it is a shock to the wrold because she's consiered a Pop artist.

There are many thing you don't know about Shakira that I can go on forever about, but either way you guys will still have something to say, so there is no point.

Any more assupmtions.....





Show me proof that she did 80% of the work for that song. I am not shocked that she wrote her own song because well, she didn't. If she wrote her own song there wouldn't be any other people credited on it. There were two other songwriters credited and one more producer. According to Shakira isn't really great proof either because no self-respecting artist is going to come out and say "Oh yea the songwriters totally did most of the work."



She took pictures, you can find them on her twitter. She also has video footage on her album. Like I said you don't know Shakira's life story so you're going to find it hard to believe. I don't care anyway, because I know for a fact she wrote the song "She wolf" with some amount of help from two professional songwriters.





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