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Offline ScaryShoes  
#21 Posted : 01 February 2010 06:08:03(UTC)
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#22 Posted : 01 February 2010 07:40:02(UTC)
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Fiction, while fiction, can have the greatest meaning in our real lives, and can profoundly affect the outcomes of many situations if we would only take the time to listen.

Sure. But there's a difference between say characters created by Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky and characters created by Roald Dahl.

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." by Benjamin Franklin is one of my favourites.

I also adore the following two quotes: “When the highwayman holds his gun to your head, you turn your valuables over to him. You 'consent' alright, but you do so because you cannot help yourself, because you are compelled by his gun. Are you not compelled to work for an employer? Your need compels you, just as the highwayman’s gun.” - Alexander Berkman (Russian anarchist and companion of the great Emma Goldman)

"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C. Clarke
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#23 Posted : 01 February 2010 09:37:33(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
asdf wrote:
Fiction, while fiction, can have the greatest meaning in our real lives, and can profoundly affect the outcomes of many situations if we would only take the time to listen.

Sure. But there's a difference between say characters created by Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky and characters created by Roald Dahl.

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." by Benjamin Franklin is one of my favourites.

I also adore the following two quotes: “When the highwayman holds his gun to your head, you turn your valuables over to him. You 'consent' alright, but you do so because you cannot help yourself, because you are compelled by his gun. Are you not compelled to work for an employer? Your need compels you, just as the highwayman’s gun.” - Alexander Berkman (Russian anarchist and companion of the great Emma Goldman)

"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C. Clarke


Actually, that line was from the movie, not the book. If its a good line, what does it matter who said it?
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#24 Posted : 01 February 2010 12:11:30(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
forkboy wrote:
asdf wrote:
Fiction, while fiction, can have the greatest meaning in our real lives, and can profoundly affect the outcomes of many situations if we would only take the time to listen.

Sure. But there's a difference between say characters created by Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky and characters created by Roald Dahl.

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." by Benjamin Franklin is one of my favourites.

I also adore the following two quotes: “When the highwayman holds his gun to your head, you turn your valuables over to him. You 'consent' alright, but you do so because you cannot help yourself, because you are compelled by his gun. Are you not compelled to work for an employer? Your need compels you, just as the highwayman’s gun.” - Alexander Berkman (Russian anarchist and companion of the great Emma Goldman)

"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C. Clarke


Actually, that line was from the movie, not the book. If its a good line, what does it matter who said it?


What line, from what movie?
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#25 Posted : 01 February 2010 13:22:58(UTC)
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Mine, from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
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#26 Posted : 02 February 2010 02:48:11(UTC)
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#27 Posted : 02 February 2010 02:48:27(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
forkboy wrote:
I hate to sound all intellectual snob but eh there's a million of great quotes and you guys quote some fiction? You guys should get some culture in you.


i agree.


Well you obviously don't hate it, you love making people feel stupid. A quotes a quote no matter where it came from and who it was said by, and if a quote affects you then why the fuck not post it on a thread labelled 'quotes'. Tolstoy or Dahl, it really doesn't matter.
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#28 Posted : 13 February 2010 05:18:32(UTC)
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#29 Posted : 13 February 2010 05:48:37(UTC)
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Well you obviously don't hate it, you love making people feel stupid.

Yeah, I know, it's just a turn of phrase. Besides, being insincere is damn good fun.

If you really want to go into it, it's about living in an age where intellectualism is looked down upon and ignorance looked at as a positive trait among leaders. Quick fix entertainment solutions distract people from reality, which is nice in that it makes them content, but that contentment leads to apathy. So excuse me if I look at a thread on "favourite quotes" and expect a higher standard than Willy Wonka, a member of the positively neanderthal Avenged Sevenfold and One Tree Hill.

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#30 Posted : 13 February 2010 06:02:16(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
So excuse me if I look at a thread on "favourite quotes" and expect a higher standard than Willy Wonka, a member of the positively neanderthal Avenged Sevenfold and One Tree Hill.

Hey, that "six billion souls" quote is brilliant. Just because the writers of a TV show wrote it, doesn't make it any less valid. This is about the words, not who said/wrote it.
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#31 Posted : 13 February 2010 06:57:16(UTC)
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think of all the great minds that have existed throught history... all the wise and brilliant things they said...

and people list quotes from a poor faddy band, a crap hollywood film and act as if they mean something.. The simple fact that a lot of people don't know who these people are let alone what they said makes me feel violent towards modern mass media...


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#32 Posted : 13 February 2010 08:35:21(UTC)
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What makes a line in a movie that is brilliant, elegant and meaningful any less valuable than than a quote from a famous historical or not so famous historical figure that has the same qualities? A quote can always mean something to someone no matter who said it and if you cant realize that than it is you who are uncultured, not the people who take in every sort of culture and take it all within their own feelings and thoughts and make it meaningful to themselves.

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#33 Posted : 13 February 2010 09:01:15(UTC)
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"only two things in life are guaranteed; death and taxes" - i don't know who said it but i like it :D
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#34 Posted : 13 February 2010 10:33:11(UTC)
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So many wonderful quotes over history.
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#35 Posted : 13 February 2010 21:50:25(UTC)
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"only two things in life are guaranteed; death and taxes" - i don't know who said it but i like it :D


Benjamin Franklin said that.
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#36 Posted : 13 February 2010 23:04:32(UTC)
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#37 Posted : 14 February 2010 00:22:00(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
What makes a line in a movie that is brilliant, elegant and meaningful any less valuable than than a quote from a famous historical or not so famous historical figure that has the same qualities? A quote can always mean something to someone no matter who said it and if you cant realize that than it is you who are uncultured, not the people who take in every sort of culture and take it all within their own feelings and thoughts and make it meaningful to themselves.



i just generally mistrust any information put accross via a form of Mass Media... be that newspapers, tv shows, films etc etc... i am a very paranoid person :)

and as Voltaire said.... Common sense is not so common...
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#38 Posted : 14 February 2010 00:51:34(UTC)
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Didnt say that it was. (common sense)

As for mistrusting it, I dont blame you. But that is why I said you take if for your own meanings and not necessarily what the writer intended.
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#39 Posted : 14 February 2010 00:56:20(UTC)
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#40 Posted : 14 February 2010 01:59:39(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
Didnt say that it was. (common sense)

As for mistrusting it, I dont blame you. But that is why I said you take if for your own meanings and not necessarily what the writer intended.


i was using Voltaire to highlight my own lack of common sense...

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