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User is suspended until 16/05/4760 03:38:29(UTC) stephaniewazhere  
#2961 Posted : 10 March 2010 04:07:59(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
I wouldn't say that was especially funny, but I certainly agree with the sentiment.



Nope, it IS hilariously funny. It’s hilariously funny unless you have no type of sense of humor. But what they are
"claiming" about Shakira and hispanics is absolutely not true. The song makes perfect sense unless you're a dumb ass.
I would almost say its racist since they this is the 4th time they say that about a Latino singer/person. It's like we get it already! We know there are people who have an accent but it doesn't mean we are stupid like they are making it seem. I'm glad people even managed to get this video off the air cause I can see why.

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#2962 Posted : 10 March 2010 04:19:27(UTC)
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To be honest the song makes absolute sesnse, so they use Shakira's accent as an excuse to say the song doesn't make sense.




It's not her fault that she's so irresistible
But all the damage she's caused isn't fixable
Every twenty seconds you repeat her name
But when it comes to me you don't care
if I'm alive or dead

So objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away

Next to her cheap silicon I look minimal
That's why in front of your eyes I'm invisible
But you gotta know small things also count
You better put your feet on the ground
And see what it's about

Objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away

I wish there was a chance for you and me
I wish you couldn't find a place to be
Away from here

This is pathetic and sardonic
It's sadistic and psychotic
Tango is not for three
Was never meant to be

But you can try it
Rehearse it
Or train like a horse
But don't you count on me
Don't you count on me boy

Objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away

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#2963 Posted : 10 March 2010 04:37:51(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
I wouldn't say that was especially funny, but I certainly agree with the sentiment.



Nope, it IS hilariously funny. It’s hilariously funny unless you have no type of sense of humor. But what they are
"claiming" about Shakira and hispanics is absolutely not true. The song makes perfect sense unless you're a dumb ass.
I would almost say its racist since they this is the 4th time they say that about a Latino singer/person. It's like we get it already! We know there are people who have an accent but it doesn't mean we are stupid like they are making it seem. I'm glad people even managed to get this video off the air cause I can see why.



Calm down. The joke is that Shakira's lyrics in English often have bad translations, awkward phrases, and it is therefore inadvertently amusing. It's hardly racist.

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It's not her fault that she's so irresistible
But all the damage she's caused isn't fixable
Every twenty seconds you repeat her name
But when it comes to me you don't care
if I'm alive or dead

So objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away

Next to her cheap silicon I look minimal
That's why in front of your eyes I'm invisible
But you gotta know small things also count
You better put your feet on the ground
And see what it's about

Objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away

I wish there was a chance for you and me
I wish you couldn't find a place to be
Away from here

This is pathetic and sardonic
It's sadistic and psychotic
Tango is not for three
Was never meant to be

But you can try it
Rehearse it
Or train like a horse
But don't you count on me
Don't you count on me boy

Objection I don't wanna be the exception
To get a bit of your attention
I love you for free and I'm not your mother
But you don't even bother

Objection I'm tired of this triangle
Got dizzy dancing tango
I'm falling apart in your hands again
No way I've got to get away


That's not exactly nonsensical, it's just a little bit... Clumsy? Marginally more so than most native-spoken English pop.
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#2964 Posted : 10 March 2010 04:54:59(UTC)
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I have to admit it is "clumsy". But it is so hard to translate lyrics and still keep the real meaning of the song, while rhyming as well.
The funniest one I would have to say was when she says "Lucky that my breast are small and perky so you don't confuse them with mountains". When i first heard that and found out what it meant because I heard the "controversy", I laughed my ass off. I was like that's the classic Shakira we love.

But anyway, she was referring to women who have big breast. She’s calling them out. She didn’t just take a random word or anything like that. I’m pretty sure you already know that.
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#2965 Posted : 10 March 2010 04:59:51(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
I have to admit it is "clumsy". But it is so hard to translate lyrics and still keep the real meaning of the song, while rhyming as well.
The funniest one I would have to say was when she says "Lucky that my breast are small and perky so you don't confuse them with mountains". When i first heard that and found out what it meant because I heard the "controversy", I laughed my ass off. I was like that's the classic Shakira we love.

But anyway, she was referring to women who have big breast. She’s calling them out. She didn’t just take a random word or anything like that. I’m pretty sure you already know that.

I thought it was "small and humble"?
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#2966 Posted : 10 March 2010 05:00:33(UTC)
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bikz wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I have to admit it is "clumsy". But it is so hard to translate lyrics and still keep the real meaning of the song, while rhyming as well.
The funniest one I would have to say was when she says "Lucky that my breast are small and perky so you don't confuse them with mountains". When i first heard that and found out what it meant because I heard the "controversy", I laughed my ass off. I was like that's the classic Shakira we love.

But anyway, she was referring to women who have big breast. She’s calling them out. She didn’t just take a random word or anything like that. I’m pretty sure you already know that.

I thought it was "small and humble"?


In the Mad TV is not. they change the lyric to proud and perky.

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#2967 Posted : 10 March 2010 05:03:58(UTC)
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#2968 Posted : 10 March 2010 05:16:08(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
In the Mad TV is not. they change the lyric to small and perky.

They also change it to "Whatever, Don't Matter". :P
"Whenever, Wherever" is a class song, my favourite of hers apart from "She Wolf". It's fun to sing, and as for dancing, I can dance as well as she can, or I could if I was the right shape - "Sucky that my breasts aren't small or humble, so instead of dancing, I'm bouncing."
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#2969 Posted : 10 March 2010 05:33:43(UTC)
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bikz wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
In the Mad TV is not. they change the lyric to small and perky.

They also change it to "Whatever, Don't Matter". :P
"Whenever, Wherever" is a class song, my favourite of hers apart from "She Wolf". It's fun to sing, and as for dancing, I can dance as well as she can, or I could if I was the right shape - "Sucky that my breasts aren't small or humble, so instead of dancing, I'm bouncing."


I know lol :P

Shakira is unique in her own way. Believe it or not “She wolf” was so underrated. Not in this forum though cause I whored the song out but (Whistle ), it was so underrated on the radio too. Loba was real succesaful though. They overplayed that one.

If the loba lyrics were to be translated without rhyme the song would be just as clever as the one in Spanish.


"una Loba en el amario, tiene ganas de salir, ahuuuuu, deja que se come el barrio. Antes de irte a dormir."

The real translation would be:

"theres a she wolf in the closet, she is tempted to get out, ahuuuuu, you better let her eat the neighbor hood, before you go to sleep". See the real translation.

but she puts
"there's a she wolf in the closet" open up and set it free, ahuuuu, there's a she wolf in the closet, let it out so it can breathe"

so much taken away, know what I mean?

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#2970 Posted : 10 March 2010 05:49:27(UTC)
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This is how the lyrics would be like if they were clearly translated.


Furtive as she passes by
Furtive as she passes by
That she wolf is special
Look at her walk, walk

Who hasn't wished for a licantrophe goddess
while in the heat of a romantic night
My howlings are the call
I want a domesticated wolf
I have at last found an infallible solution to completely erase the guilt
I won't stay by your side watching TV and listening to apologies
Life has given me a voracious hunger and all you give me is candy
I'm going out along with my legs and my youthfulness even if jealousy kills you

There's a she wolf in the closet
who wants to get out
Let her eat up the neighborhood
before you go to sleep

I've got magnetic stilettos
in order to leave the pack frenzy
The full moon is like a fruit
It doesn't give advice nor does it hear them
I carry a special radar with me to found single men
In case I got in trouble I also have the firefighters' phone number
neither really cute guys nor divos nor rich boys, I know what I want
To have lots of fun and behave really bad while in the arms of some gentleman

There's a she wolf in the closet
wants to get out
Let her eat up the neighborhood
before you go to sleep

When it's almost one in the morning the she wolf in heat greets the moon
She doesn't know whether go down the street or enter some bar and try her luck
She's already sat down in her table and is taking aim at her next prey
Poor guy, who wasn't expecting something like this

Furtive as she passes by
Furtive as she passes by
That she wolf is special
Look at her walk, walk
Let her eat up the neighborhood
before you go to sleep

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#2971 Posted : 10 March 2010 08:36:25(UTC)
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Nothing against her, but I dont like her. Anyone can use a an auto tuner and hump the speakers.
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#2972 Posted : 10 March 2010 09:13:57(UTC)
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What's everyone else do in the real world?


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well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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I think Atheism is too far spread that its not cool to be an atheist anymore. Its kind of like pop music and twilight, its like some stupid teen trend.
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#2974 Posted : 10 March 2010 09:41:50(UTC)
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I think Atheism is too far spread that its not cool to be an atheist anymore. Its kind of like pop music and twilight, its like some stupid teen trend.


It's a bit cooler than worshipping a dude who probably isn't even real.
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Probably isnt even real according to the atheists. To us there is no doubt that he is. There is more evidence that he is than isnt, but I have already went over this and dont want to do so again. ;)
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#2976 Posted : 10 March 2010 09:57:45(UTC)
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Not to mention we get to live forever in Heaven with our beliefs. You just die.
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#2977 Posted : 10 March 2010 10:03:00(UTC)
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Probably isnt even real according to the atheists. To us there is no doubt that he is. There is more evidence that he is than isnt, but I have already went over this and dont want to do so again. ;)


That's an entirely baseless argument. Saying there is more evidence implies that you are aware of all of the evidence or even aware of the nature of evidence and clearly you are not because a book in which God himself claims he exists is not admissible as evidence, nor is anything as-yet-inexplicable by science. If you want to believe go right ahead, but that evidence line is bullshit that people who don't understand science take on face value and assume to be correct because you agree with their position. Casually saying that kind of thing is part of the problem.
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#2978 Posted : 10 March 2010 10:04:18(UTC)
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Not to mention we get to live forever in Heaven with our beliefs. You just die.


Actually, if we're right, you just die too. Believing in it doesn't make it more real.
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#2979 Posted : 10 March 2010 10:07:05(UTC)
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I don't think this type of thing should be allowed to be discussed, its offensive and really not debatable. When will Mods in this forum for once take immediate action and just tell everyone to stop instead of putting jsut an opinion. You guys seriosuly don't do your job right. I'm sick of it.
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This debate has cropped up before, and it's hardly against the rules though.
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