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Offline Captain Insano  
#1 Posted : 27 June 2009 17:15:26(UTC)
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Seeing as it is in the papers here in Oz quite a bit of late, I thought I'd ask this and see what the lovely people of the forums veiw on voluntary euthanasia. Agree? Disagree?

For the record, I am all for allowing those terminally ill to choose to end their life, whether it be through living wills or whatever. Though its difficult to imagine been unable to move, talk, feed or bath ones self or be in the last stages of a painful disease such as bone cancer, I'd rather be allowed to end my life than linger on in what I'd describe as complete and utter futility, anguish, pain and despair and having loved ones watch the degeneration unfold.
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#2 Posted : 27 June 2009 21:59:17(UTC)
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Agree. There is no good reason why not.
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#3 Posted : 28 June 2009 01:40:55(UTC)
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Agree.. Its your life you should do what you want with it...
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Agree.
If I had any condition that I would never be able to do something productive and just depend on others, I'd much rather die.
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#5 Posted : 28 June 2009 10:05:04(UTC)
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Put yourself in a doctor's situation now - would you speak up if you knew a patient was trying to kill themselves, or not?

Consider that not speaking up is (in the UK currently) gross misconduct, if you knew what was going on. Would you cover yourself, or the patient?
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#6 Posted : 28 June 2009 10:40:47(UTC)
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I agree with it, as long as the laws are tight on it -
1. Definite consent from patients that they want to die. Otherwise, the legality could be abused, eg. by close family members of wealthy patients.
2. Definite consent from doctors that patients cannot be cured. Possibility of abuse by patients with suicidal feelings, or who don't know of a cure.
If both patient and doctor consent as such, then euthanasia should be legal.
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#7 Posted : 28 June 2009 10:43:52(UTC)
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I agree with it, as long as the laws are tight on it -
1. Definite consent from patients that they want to die. Otherwise, the legality could be abused, eg. by close family members of wealthy patients.
2. Definite consent from doctors that patients cannot be cured. Possibility of abuse by patients with suicidal feelings, or who don't know of a cure.
If both patient and doctor consent as such, then euthanasia should be legal.


I think there should also be some legal personnel involved. A dying person won't always make rational decisions.
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#8 Posted : 10 July 2009 08:25:21(UTC)
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means sign me up... i wanna go now damnnit!!

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#9 Posted : 10 July 2009 08:49:26(UTC)
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?
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#10 Posted : 10 July 2009 08:54:57(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?


I assume he has no idea what euthanasia is. It contains the word "Asia", which my be where he got the idea from? xD
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#11 Posted : 10 July 2009 11:41:05(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?


My brain hurts at him, quite frankly.
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#12 Posted : 10 July 2009 12:59:50(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?


I assume he has no idea what euthanasia is. It contains the word "Asia", which my be where he got the idea from? xD


When I was a little boy and first heard the term, thats what I thought it was referring to...the youth in Asia. Oh the ignorance of childhood.
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#13 Posted : 10 July 2009 20:38:42(UTC)
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Captain Insano wrote:
old.gregg wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?


I assume he has no idea what euthanasia is. It contains the word "Asia", which my be where he got the idea from? xD


When I was a little boy and first heard the term, thats what I thought it was referring to...the youth in Asia. Oh the ignorance of childhood.


Reminds me of Standard Grade Geography. Mr. MacClean announced that next class we would be doing "Age and sex pyramids" except he said "Age 'n sex pyramids" and everyone thought he said "Asian sex pyramids". Good memories. Except sitting next to David Patterson, world class dickhead.
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#14 Posted : 10 July 2009 21:06:50(UTC)
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What about mandatory euthanasia?

We are about to hit a population crisis. So why not give the oldies 5 years of retirement and then...retire them like they are replicants in Bladerunner?
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#15 Posted : 10 July 2009 22:15:42(UTC)
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What about mandatory euthanasia?

We are about to hit a population crisis. So why not give the oldies 5 years of retirement and then...retire them like they are replicants in Bladerunner?


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#16 Posted : 11 July 2009 01:00:36(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
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Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?

..... I'm sorry, it's just that any euthanasia I've heard being practiced has always been involuntary, onto the chinese thing(assuming that's what xenophobic refers to, I dont know my phobias). I was refferring to their judicial and medical practice, lets say a rich man or one of his family members is in need of an organ, they put someone in jail who happens to have a compatible organ on death row and immediately euthanize him. That has been going on for quite awhile.

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#17 Posted : 11 July 2009 01:02:41(UTC)
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sharinganerror wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
sharinganerror wrote:
Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?

..... I'm sorry, it's just that any euthanasia I've heard being practiced has always been involuntary, onto the chinese thing(assuming that's what xenophobic refers to, I dont know my phobias). I was refferring to their judicial and medical practice, lets say a rich man or one of his family members is in need of an organ, they put someone in jail who happens to have a compatible organ on death row and immediately euthanize him. That has been going on for quite awhile.


Well thanks for clarifying.
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#18 Posted : 11 July 2009 01:06:22(UTC)
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sharinganerror wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
sharinganerror wrote:
Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?

..... I'm sorry, it's just that any euthanasia I've heard being practiced has always been involuntary, onto the chinese thing(assuming that's what xenophobic refers to, I dont know my phobias). I was refferring to their judicial and medical practice, lets say a rich man or one of his family members is in need of an organ, they put someone in jail who happens to have a compatible organ on death row and immediately euthanize him. That has been going on for quite awhile.

:EDIT: BTW WTF IS YOUR PROB!! YOU FEEL LIKE BEING A DICK? ok then.


Very true at the first part, it's referred to as the death car procedure.
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#19 Posted : 11 July 2009 06:29:54(UTC)
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sharinganerror wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
sharinganerror wrote:
Voluntary? well if that shit exists, then by all means so be it. Unlike those damned Chinese.... fucking cat/dog eaters....


What the fuck does your xenophobic/racist outburst have to do with euthanasia?

..... I'm sorry, it's just that any euthanasia I've heard being practiced has always been involuntary, onto the chinese thing(assuming that's what xenophobic refers to, I dont know my phobias). I was refferring to their judicial and medical practice, lets say a rich man or one of his family members is in need of an organ, they put someone in jail who happens to have a compatible organ on death row and immediately euthanize him. That has been going on for quite awhile.

You never heard of Doctor Kevorkian? He's one of your own nations finest legalised euthanasia campaigners. Involuntary euthanasia tends to be known by a different name these days, it's called murder.
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