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Offline Mt. Epic  
#61 Posted : 24 November 2009 09:12:07(UTC)
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kevinfan wrote:
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Steph, I have a question. What is your real name?


My name is Daniel.


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#62 Posted : 24 November 2009 09:12:53(UTC)
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Mt. Epic wrote:
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Steph, I have a question. What is your real name?


My name is Daniel.


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Let me guess what your name is!!! Brick wall
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#63 Posted : 24 November 2009 09:15:31(UTC)
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I haven't revealed my real name on here, cuz sorry but I didn't really know if you guys were pedophiles or anything. So any name you find here from any thread, all fake names.
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#64 Posted : 24 November 2009 09:16:05(UTC)
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no i banned you for three very good reasons... Mutli acounting being just one of them... And now you have done it again, you have just increased your ban.
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#65 Posted : 24 November 2009 09:50:34(UTC)
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Don’t try and lie. I wouldn’t have to multi account if you wouldn’t have banned me for no valid reason in the first place. And if the multi-accounting thing has to do with my Danielwazhere account, everyone was very aware that was me. I wasn’t trying to be sneaky with it. And if you felt like it violated the forum rules you should of gave me a warning about it, and I would of stop using the account. Personally I don’t give a shit if I get suspended if I do something wrong but I’m just shocked that a forum has a mod like you. Sure you play fair with others but you don’t play fair with the users you personally hate, which happens to be me. (And if other Mods where involved with the suspension then they fall in the same category as you.) And if this has to do with my message sent to you via PM, it does not give you any right for you to suspend me or effect a suspension at all, I was giving my honest opinion on why you shouldn’t be a mod. Nowhere in there did I threaten or violate any rules in the forums. You and any other mod involved do not know how to handle power in a forum. Honestly this is not a big deal or a surprise anymore since this is the third time I have been suspended for no valid reason.
Anyway back on what I am saying, you had no valid reason to suspend that’s all I have to say.
Anyway, I’m on vacation right now. So I have plenty of things to do.
These little suspensions on me really aren’t making this forum any better because I was not suspended for a valid reason. I’m still going to be the same person, so 3 day off from a FORUM (lol) is not going to change who I am. It is just going to keep satisfying your immaturity.
PS. Be back when my vacation is over.

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#66 Posted : 24 November 2009 11:48:54(UTC)
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I must agree, this is another case of Rince using his power for no reason...this isnt the first time I have felt this way about you either...
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#67 Posted : 24 November 2009 12:46:27(UTC)
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I must agree, this is another case of Rince using his power for no reason...this isnt the first time I have felt this way about you either...


shh, or else the "all mighty" will suspend you too. lol
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#68 Posted : 24 November 2009 12:57:38(UTC)
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I he suspended me for saying that, it would be the funniest thing in the world, and I would welcome it just for that laugh at his ignorance. However, Rince is a smart person, and I dont think he would stoop that low...
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#69 Posted : 24 November 2009 13:00:00(UTC)
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wait, doesn't this forum have IP ban? if it does then use it if you wish to REALLY suspend him.
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#70 Posted : 24 November 2009 17:24:39(UTC)
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Asdf, please don't comment on something your not fully aware of. Steph was banned for two days for...
1- starting a flame war with another member.
2- using an exisive amount of bad language.
3- a fine recent run of spamming
4- laughing at another member who got suspended and claiming that it can never happen to him.
5- sending rude and abuse pms to mods.

Despite popular opinion I am not power mad or crazed, and do not go on random banning sprees simply because i feel like it. I only ban when there is a good reason for it and normaly Find a pm warning works fine.
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#71 Posted : 24 November 2009 18:07:47(UTC)
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Your right, I shouldnt have jumped so quickly.

1- starting a flame war with another member. - True, but he had just done a bunch of crap himself and she had reason to be angry.
2- using an exisive amount of bad language. - I do agree with this completely.
3- a fine recent run of spamming - Proof? I aint seen it.
4- laughing at another member who got suspended and claiming that it can never happen to him. - Thats not exactly how it happened.
5- sending rude and abuse pms to mods. - Mod or not, a pm is a pm and should not effect a ban, just how a pm to anyone else it wouldn't. This is my biggest complaint with ALL mods.

I respect you, and your place among the forumers, but I feel that you and one other, sometimes abuse their rights as a mod.
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#72 Posted : 24 November 2009 18:26:49(UTC)
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I think you can agree that a post that just has a smilie in it is in no way anything but spam. When you have to trawl through endless posts of them by anyone it gets annoying. Laughing at somone for getting banned for something they had a part in and then claiming it will never happen to them is what I saw... If one person gets banned for somthing other people should be banned for the same thing. That's how i see it.
As for the sending of abusive pm's to anyone be it mod or normal user... When a mod is made aware of it then yes, it is a serious matter. The way you have argued it above implies that bullying and abusive behaviour can not and will not be tolerated in public where everyone can see it, but in private you can do it without any problems?
The only reason abusive pm's between other users have not resulted in bans is because normaly we don't know about it, and unless people tell us there is nothing we can do.

And just to round of the post before I go and cycle up the Danube to. Loverly castle... I am sick to death of being seen as some kind of mad power hungry monster, simply because I have banned one very very very vocal member of the comunity for good reasons. Maybe people should stop and think about why a user has been banned (let's put it into perspective here.... Two days is nothing) rather than complain that a mod has actually had to ban somone...
Especially when it's not always me thats even banning this person. You can only be a hate figure for so long before you get sick and tired of people joking about you.
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#73 Posted : 25 November 2009 02:44:52(UTC)
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Just like to point out that I'm the other mod in the situation and I agree with rince entirely. And it's not like Steph hasn't been warned or punished about these things before. Honestly, the mods are sick of it because almost every single problem or bitchy fight around here is either started by or directed to him - or if not you can be pretty sure he'll get involved soon. It was increased by ME for multi accounting because a ban is a ban, if you try and get around it then there'll be punishment for that too. The rules on that matter haven't changed since the first time he was suspended yet he didn't only decide to do it but he also continued doing it after he was told not too. Thus if I see another post from him on another account another day will be slapped onto the suspension.
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#74 Posted : 25 November 2009 02:48:23(UTC)
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ASDF is not fully aware off? There’s nothing to be unaware of since all the points you are making are being exaggerated.
1. Starting a flame war? Who doesn’t? It a forum for god sakes. People will disagree and keep going at each other until a MOD tells them to stop. Whoever keeps going then should face a ban or whatever. And from what I know I didn’t start no flame war.

2. Bad Language? Nowhere in the forum says we can’t use “bad language”.
The rule says :

2. No persistent unwarranted abuse, while debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. ie. bullying.

If this rule has something to do with my cursing “offending or insulting” you, to my belief people on a constant rate people attack my religion which happens to be Christianity. I am offended when someone says “If your God is so loving why blah blah blah” Your God is fake blah blah blah” on a thread that even has nothing to do with religion or God. I’m just saying that because it relates to me cursing offending someone. Other from that I don’t see how my cursing is breaking any rules.

How many people abuse that rule anyway? Many. Who gets signaled out? Steph once again.

3. I have not spammed the forum.
4. Laughing at a member? Who was not laughing at him when he went and spammed the forum (Mods were even editing his posts to make it look funny). And for your information Old. Gregg sent me a PM that to not reply to his threads anymore and that you guys are just letting him cool off. When he sent me that message I stopped. And all my post I made on his threads were obviously sarcastic and even he was aware of that.
5. Like ASDF said “Mod or not, a pm is a pm and should not affect a ban, just how a pm to anyone else it wouldn't. This is my biggest complaint with ALL mods”. And if it was really about that you would have done something because that was in my belief like a week ago. (Once again trying to find things to suspend me)


He’s just trying to find every little thing to ban me now because once again he’s seeing that he has banned me for NO VALID reason. Don’t you see how he changed his reasons? My sarcastic smiley on a thread Chimp Records to spam the forum was obviously sarcastic and respondent to his message. Not spam. You got to be kidding me if you claim that I spammed the forum because I did that (and if it is spam it is the lowest form of it). And I believe I have been a member for quite a while in this forum. It’s not like I was new user and came out of nowhere to post a smiley to piss off a spammer.

This is my last message on this. If this can’t help you see you have banned me once again for no valid reason. I don’t know what will.
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#75 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:05:34(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
Just like to point out that I'm the other mod in the situation and I agree with rince entirely. And it's not like Steph hasn't been warned or punished about these things before. Honestly, the mods are sick of it because almost every single problem or bitchy fight around here is either started by or directed to him - or if not you can be pretty sure he'll get involved soon. It was increased by ME for multi accounting because a ban is a ban, if you try and get around it then there'll be punishment for that too. The rules on that matter haven't changed since the first time he was suspended yet he didn't only decide to do it but he also continued doing it after he was told not too. Thus if I see another post from him on another account another day will be slapped onto the suspension.



On this particular situation no. That is false in fact most of the problems that have been happening lately, I was no involved. He'll get involved? So what about the people who started it in the first place. I tried to get around because I logged on and out of nowhere it said I was banned. I tried asking the forum and Rincewind responded why banned me. And I felt unfairly banned and I am giving my explanation why I shouldn't be banned.

The fact you suspend me does not make the situation any better. There is nothing to learn from it. IT just shows that you do not know how to handle power.
And the reason I'm bothered by it is because if I plan being on here on my free time I can't keep on with mods like Rincewind. With him this forum is slowly going to die until hardly no one is left.

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#76 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:10:31(UTC)
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Also notice the only time I do this is when I'm unfairly unbanned otherwise I wouldn't do this in the first place.
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#77 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:20:34(UTC)
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real2 wrote:
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Just like to point out that I'm the other mod in the situation and I agree with rince entirely. And it's not like Steph hasn't been warned or punished about these things before. Honestly, the mods are sick of it because almost every single problem or bitchy fight around here is either started by or directed to him - or if not you can be pretty sure he'll get involved soon. It was increased by ME for multi accounting because a ban is a ban, if you try and get around it then there'll be punishment for that too. The rules on that matter haven't changed since the first time he was suspended yet he didn't only decide to do it but he also continued doing it after he was told not too. Thus if I see another post from him on another account another day will be slapped onto the suspension.



On this particular situation no. That is false in fact most of the problems that have been happening lately, I was no involved. He'll get involved? So what about the people who started it in the first place. I tried to get around because I logged on and out of nowhere it said I was banned. I tried asking the forum and Rincewind responded why banned me. And I felt unfairly banned and I am giving my explanation why I shouldn't be banned.

The fact you suspend me does not make the situation any better. There is nothing to learn from it. IT just shows that you do not know how to handle power.
And the reason I'm bothered by it is because if I plan being on here on my free time I can't keep on with mods like Rincewind. With him this forum is slowly going to die until hardly no one is left.


There is something to learn from it, and it's quite basic. Stop breaking rules and you can stay, keep breaking rules and you're not welcome. And that's the end of it really.

Also - if you're responding to something a mod has done over PM then yes, it is different than talking to a member as they have the power to do something about it. If you're rude to someone else in a pm and they actually come to a mod then sure a mod will go and do something about it but quite often they just won't. As far as I've seen Rince's pms back to you weren't rude or unreasonable, however yours were. I can't prove that, but I know who I'd trust in a situation like that.

Yes, Steph did stop when asked in the Chimp Records situation which I'm glad about because nobody wanted yet more posts from Chimpy in response.

Rince is not finding things to suspend you - he has a memory. If you break a rule then it's remembered and if you keep doing it some authority has to be taken. I can also see where rince was coming from when he said about spamming. You were posting just one smiley or something in a post - that's not a valid post, really, is it. I mean, I wouldn't say it's a really bad rule break but some content to a post is always quite nice...

The reason I'm increasing your suspension has been plainly stated far too many times - stop creating more accounts to get around it or I will increase it. I can't make it more basic than that, sorry.

EDIT: And while I was posting that you somehow got yet another post in. Do you see what I'm getting at yet?

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#78 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:33:08(UTC)
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Next thing you know members will be getting suspended because they didn’t log in that day. Obviously I will never be treated fairly in this so what called “Forum” so Goodbye!

Bikz you know we had this conversation, I know you wanted me to give it a chance but I was right I will never be treated fairly. I’ll send you a pm where you can keep in touch because I want you to hear the music I am working on. Thank you for being fair and helping out many times, you can only do so much. Hope you feel better BTW and peace.
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#79 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:42:07(UTC)
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I really don't know where you get the idea that you're not being treated fairly, but if in some great big dramatic gesture you must banish yourself from these forums then I guess you're perfectly welcome to.

The thing is - I'm not even responding to stuff between you and rince, it's the fact that after I said it as basically as is physically possible you're STILL posting through your suspension. Just do yourself a favour and STOP.

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#80 Posted : 25 November 2009 03:43:19(UTC)
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Call it tough love, but I reckon you could learn something from this. I don't expect you will, but after being given multiple chances, you continually break rules and claim certain mods are discriminating. Once you've returned after a suspension, that's not a blank slate - you've already had warnings, and you already know what happens when you break rules, when you cross the lines we've clearly laid out.

And besides, if you are suffering from insomnia, maybe this'll help you get off the computer and go to bed.
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