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User is suspended until 16/05/4760 03:38:29(UTC) stephaniewazhere  
#1 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:07:19(UTC)
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I really need some help in writing English songs, I have no trouble in Spanish but In English I do. Any tips?

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Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me.
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Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me.


I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong words that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird.

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#4 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:14:04(UTC)
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Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me.


I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong word that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird.


Well think of a theme, then think a strong word relating to that theme, like war=hate or survival, romance-love, or broken (if it's a break up song).
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#5 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:16:13(UTC)
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.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.
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#6 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:17:41(UTC)
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Ask Lewis.

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#7 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:18:58(UTC)
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I'm an amateur, but I love writing music. I'm not the greatest at it, but my piano teacher went over some book with me about proper songwriting because my parents couldn't keep their mouths shut about my hobby. Still, my teacher did help me a hell load.
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.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.


It's harder because in Spanish I can express myself more artistically than I can in English. I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words. Like I have a couple of themes and stuff. I have brainstormed many things and tried to fit them together but I just don't know which strong words to put to make my lyrics a little more complex.

I remember one time I thought of this
"Our love feels like walking on Broken glass" that is stronger and that's more complex than saying "our love hurts".

You know what I mean, HELP PLEASE! :)
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#9 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:22:28(UTC)
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troymazing wrote:
.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.


It's harder because in Spanish I can express myself more artistically than I can in English. I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words. Like I have a couple of themes and stuff. I have brainstormed many things and tried to fit them together but I just don't know which strong words to put to make my lyrics a little more complex.

I remember one time I thought of this
"Our love feels like walking on Broken glass" that is stronger and that's more complex than saying "our love hurts".

You know what I mean, HELP PLEASE! :)


That sounds like Green Day's 21 Guns "Your faith walks on broken glass, but the hangover doesn't pass."
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#10 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:27:00(UTC)
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When I write songs, I just randomly sit down and come up with a good tune and add words to it. Then if I can be arsed I write it down, and then if I REALLY like it I might go as far as editing it. Words dont have to be complicated to be meaningful.
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words.


Just put "uber" in front of anything, it'll make it sound like a strong word. For instance:

ubertricycle
uberawesome
uberdungeon
uberfringe
uberweapon
uberlucky

I must stop. I could go on for days.

But seriously, ask Lewis - he's an amazing lyricist (:
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TP wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.


It's harder because in Spanish I can express myself more artistically than I can in English. I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words. Like I have a couple of themes and stuff. I have brainstormed many things and tried to fit them together but I just don't know which strong words to put to make my lyrics a little more complex.

I remember one time I thought of this
"Our love feels like walking on Broken glass" that is stronger and that's more complex than saying "our love hurts".

You know what I mean, HELP PLEASE! :)


That sounds like Green Day's 21 Guns "Your faith walks on broken glass, but the hangover doesn't pass."


I'm talking about love not faith and I wrote that months ago.
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#13 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:30:43(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words.


Just put "uber" in front of anything, it'll make it sound like a strong word. For instance:

ubertricycle
uberawesome
uberdungeon
uberfringe
uberweapon
uberlucky

I must stop. I could go on for days.

But seriously, ask Lewis - he's an amazing lyricist (:


What does uber mean?
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
old.gregg wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words.


Just put "uber" in front of anything, it'll make it sound like a strong word. For instance:

ubertricycle
uberawesome
uberdungeon
uberfringe
uberweapon
uberlucky

I must stop. I could go on for days.

But seriously, ask Lewis - he's an amazing lyricist (:


What does uber mean?


I was joking, dear, joking...
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
old.gregg wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words.


Just put "uber" in front of anything, it'll make it sound like a strong word. For instance:

ubertricycle
uberawesome
uberdungeon
uberfringe
uberweapon
uberlucky

I must stop. I could go on for days.

But seriously, ask Lewis - he's an amazing lyricist (:


What does uber mean?


It means like, AMAZING. As a prefix anyway.

But seriously, not a usual consideration :P

And my lyrical prowess stems from abusing words bigger than 7 letters and rhyming words which people wouldn't think of, hahah.
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#16 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:34:28(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
old.gregg wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words.


Just put "uber" in front of anything, it'll make it sound like a strong word. For instance:

ubertricycle
uberawesome
uberdungeon
uberfringe
uberweapon
uberlucky

I must stop. I could go on for days.

But seriously, ask Lewis - he's an amazing lyricist (:


What does uber mean?


I was joking, dear, joking...


lmao! and Lewis gotcha. I sometimes miss my college English class.
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.


It's harder because in Spanish I can express myself more artistically than I can in English. I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words. Like I have a couple of themes and stuff. I have brainstormed many things and tried to fit them together but I just don't know which strong words to put to make my lyrics a little more complex.

I remember one time I thought of this
"Our love feels like walking on Broken glass" that is stronger and that's more complex than saying "our love hurts".

You know what I mean, HELP PLEASE! :)


Well my inbox is always open for help on English phrases.
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troymazing wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
.... Lol. I don't write songs :( I would think it'd be the same, just in English, and not Spanish? But then again I'm no lyricist.


It's harder because in Spanish I can express myself more artistically than I can in English. I'm also used to writing songs in Spanish, and now that I'm trying to write many songs in English I just have trouble finding strong words. Like I have a couple of themes and stuff. I have brainstormed many things and tried to fit them together but I just don't know which strong words to put to make my lyrics a little more complex.

I remember one time I thought of this
"Our love feels like walking on Broken glass" that is stronger and that's more complex than saying "our love hurts".

You know what I mean, HELP PLEASE! :)


Well my inbox is always open for help on English phrases.


Thanks! I just remembered I can always look online as well for good phrases!
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TP wrote:
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TP wrote:
Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me.


I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong word that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird.


Well think of a theme, then think a strong word relating to that theme, like war=hate or survival, romance-love, or broken (if it's a break up song).


Your method of writing is drastically generic and flawed by the way. It's debatable to call such a method as that, art.
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#20 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:51:20(UTC)
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xNightsidex wrote:
TP wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
TP wrote:
Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me.


I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong word that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird.


Well think of a theme, then think a strong word relating to that theme, like war=hate or survival, romance-love, or broken (if it's a break up song).


Your method of writing is drastically generic and flawed by the way. It's debatable to call such a method as that, art.


Works for me rather fine.
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