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xNightsidex		#21 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:54:05(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Moderators, Registered Joined: 11/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,519 Location: London Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 20 time(s) in 20 post(s)		TP wrote: xNightsidex wrote: TP wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: TP wrote: Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me. I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong word that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird. Well think of a theme, then think a strong word relating to that theme, like war=hate or survival, romance-love, or broken (if it's a break up song). Your method of writing is drastically generic and flawed by the way. It's debatable to call such a method as that, art. Works for me rather fine. I highlighted parts of my quote to dwell upon. I strive for unique.
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stephaniewazhere		#22 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:54:08(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		I try to think of things that aren't human related yet they relate to human in a way. Metaphor is always art for me. The whole love and hate thing is so overrated it bores me to death at the moment.
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xNightsidex		#23 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:56:24(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Moderators, Registered Joined: 11/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,519 Location: London Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 20 time(s) in 20 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: I try to think of things that aren't human related yet they relate to human in a way. Metaphor is always art for me. The whole love and hate thing is so overrated it bores me to death at the moment. You and I have similar styles then, hahah. I favour metaphors as opposed to the ol'... Quote: My girlfriend dumped me She was so mad And now I'm lonely And very sad ...dross that a lot of n00bs churn out from writing. It pains me to see bad writing.
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TP		#24 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:56:30(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		xNightsidex wrote: TP wrote: xNightsidex wrote: TP wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: TP wrote: Think of a theme, then a rhythm, and then think of a few words that rhyme, and bam! Works for me. I do that, but I need tips how to make your lyrics mean something I mean. What kind of strong word that could be used when writing music in English I know many in Spanish but the translation just sounds weird. Well think of a theme, then think a strong word relating to that theme, like war=hate or survival, romance-love, or broken (if it's a break up song). Your method of writing is drastically generic and flawed by the way. It's debatable to call such a method as that, art. Works for me rather fine. I highlighted parts of my quote to dwell upon. I strive for unique. I mean the method isn't for the entire song, it's just a starting point.
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xNightsidex		#25 Posted : 01 August 2009 05:57:03(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere		#26 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:00:22(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		I think of non-human things and non-living things. Like a leaf falling from a tree. A rock in the middle of a dessert. An Ice cube melting. A lion and its dinner. I get inspired by those things
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TP		#27 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:02:18(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		stephaniewazhere wrote: I think of non-human things and non-living things. Like a leaf falling from a tree. A rock in the middle of a dessert. An Ice cube melting. A lion and its dinner. I get inspired by those things A lion and its dinner? A lion and its prey sounds better to me like it's a breakup song and one of them wants to get back together like cat and mice.
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Aj		#28 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:02:43(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: I think of non-human things and non-living things. Like a leaf falling from a tree. A rock in the middle of a dessert. An Ice cube melting. A lion and its dinner. I get inspired by those things Hehe, how poetic :P
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stephaniewazhere		#29 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:12:42(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: I think of non-human things and non-living things. Like a leaf falling from a tree. A rock in the middle of a dessert. An Ice cube melting. A lion and its dinner. I get inspired by those things Hehe, how poetic :P Lol, I'm actually writing something like that but it is about a dog who wants meat (representing a man wanting sex) also inspired by She Wolf by Shakira. Here's a sneak peak of the lyrics: (Don't steal bitches lol) It won't rhyme in English and it might sound weird Ese perro que handa la calle [That dog that walks the streets] Se ve que es un susio malo [He looks like he is a dirty dog] No tiene que decir disculpas [But he doesn't have to apologize for it] Pero lo tratan como un caballero [They also treat him like a gentlemen] Se siente tan malo [That feels so wrong] como un dia caluroso en Enero [Like a hot day in January] Ese Perro quire carne [That dog wants some meat] Tiene ganas the comer [He has a desire to eat] Ese Perro tinene hambre [that dog is really hungry] Voy a darle de comer [Imma give him something to eat] This song is has a lot of double meaning and I wish I was that creative when writing in English Edited by user 01 August 2009 06:13:33(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Aj		#30 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:16:56(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: Aj wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: I think of non-human things and non-living things. Like a leaf falling from a tree. A rock in the middle of a dessert. An Ice cube melting. A lion and its dinner. I get inspired by those things Hehe, how poetic :P Lol, I'm actually writing something like that but it is about a dog who wants meat (representing a man wanting sex) also inspired by She Wolf by Shakira. Here's a sneak peak of the lyrics: (Don't steal bitches lol) It won't rhyme in English and it might sound weird Ese perro que handa la calle [That dog that walks the streets] Se ve que es un susio malo [He looks like he is a dirty dog] No tiene que decir disculpas [But he doesn't have to apologize for it] Pero lo tratan como un caballero [They also treat him like a gentlemen] Se siente tan malo [That feels so wrong] como un dia caluroso en Enero [Like a hot day in January] Ese Perro quire carne [That dog wants some meat] Tiene ganas the comer [He has a desire to eat] Ese Perro tinene hambre [that dog is really hungry] Voy a darle de comer [Imma give him something to eat] This song is has a lot of double meaning and I wish I was that creative when writing in English LMAO at the lyrics :L Especially the last line :P Rather feminist, are we Steph ;) & to what you said at the end, it doesnt make a difference surely? Just think up your creative idea and rough plan for the song in spanish but then actually right it in english?
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forkboy		#31 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:17:29(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 05/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,255 Location: Glasgow Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 107 time(s) in 82 post(s)		You should just pretend you are writing death metal lyrics. Then all you need is to write lots of swearing, and occasionally throw in a reference to necrophilia just to keep the fans from deserting.
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Aj		#32 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:18:54(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		forkboy wrote: You should just pretend you are writing death metal lyrics. Then all you need is to write lots of swearing, and occasionally throw in a reference to necrophilia just to keep the fans from deserting. Agreed. You singing about necrophillia would be the greatest thing in the world.
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TP		#33 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:20:23(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		Aj wrote: forkboy wrote: You should just pretend you are writing death metal lyrics. Then all you need is to write lots of swearing, and occasionally throw in a reference to necrophilia just to keep the fans from deserting. Agreed. You singing about necrophillia would be the greatest thing in the world. You can add some pop hooks if you want it to be a pop song, still would sound dark.
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stephaniewazhere		#34 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:21:40(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		It is very hard to find words that rhyme yet your saying the same message. Oh and yes I'm very sexual in my lyrics, its part of my fierce persona. If you think thats very sexual you haven't seen nothing yet. I just wish I could do that with English :(
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TP		#35 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:23:04(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 31/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 317 Location: Milwaukee		stephaniewazhere wrote: It is very hard to find words that rhyme yet your saying the same message. Oh and yes I'm very sexual in my lyrics, its part of my fierce persona. If you think thats very sexual you haven't seen nothing yet. I just wish I could do that with English :( you can do what Sonic Youth does, their chick just whispers into the microphone and pretty much talks into it rather than sings in a rhythm.
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xNightsidex		#36 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:23:10(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Moderators, Registered Joined: 11/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,519 Location: London Thanks: 4 times Was thanked: 20 time(s) in 20 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: It is very hard to find words that rhyme yet your saying the same message. Oh and yes I'm very sexual in my lyrics, its part of my fierce persona. If you think thats very sexual you haven't seen nothing yet. I just wish I could do that with English :( You'll pick it up in no time flat, trust ;)
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stephaniewazhere		#37 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:24:46(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 21/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 18,252 Thanks: 6248 times Was thanked: 7557 time(s) in 3439 post(s)		xNightsidex wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: It is very hard to find words that rhyme yet your saying the same message. Oh and yes I'm very sexual in my lyrics, its part of my fierce persona. If you think thats very sexual you haven't seen nothing yet. I just wish I could do that with English :( You'll pick it up in no time flat, trust ;) Thanks I hope so.
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TP		#38 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:25:53(UTC)
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Aj		#39 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:26:30(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 16/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,543 Location: Jamaica Thanks: 27 times Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 28 post(s)		stephaniewazhere wrote: xNightsidex wrote: stephaniewazhere wrote: It is very hard to find words that rhyme yet your saying the same message. Oh and yes I'm very sexual in my lyrics, its part of my fierce persona. If you think thats very sexual you haven't seen nothing yet. I just wish I could do that with English :( You'll pick it up in no time flat, trust ;) Thanks I hope so. I dont see what the big problem is? Surely it's no different? I understand certain words ryhme differently, but just change the words? :/ Sorry about the post I deleted, my little brother wrote it :P
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xNightsidex		#40 Posted : 01 August 2009 06:27:32(UTC)
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