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User is suspended until 16/05/4760 03:38:29(UTC) stephaniewazhere  
#41 Posted : 07 August 2009 03:56:36(UTC)
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Yep, Forkboy won at totally being an epic fail.

Like I aid in the Homosexuals vs Laws (Marriage, Acceptance, The Army, Bathrooms ect.) My opinion is this. In the bible it says God loves everyone and all his children. He must love gays. I think being gay is no different that being straight only that you like the same sex, but the feeling of love is the same. Remember different people wrote the bible, So thats why I don't believe the part where it says that being Homosexual is wrong.

Whether or not you think he won the thing, this about what I belief, I really don't care f you don;t believe what I believe. But just don;t disrespect my religion. Thats all.



i don't think he has won anything at all... I was just tring to point out that by not answering him in a rational way you are shooting yourself for him. I want to see good debates going on between people.. Not name calling, it solves nothing. I like your idea's about god loving homosexuals though... its a good point of view that more people should share.


I see what your saying, this is a debate thread.
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#42 Posted : 07 August 2009 04:05:59(UTC)
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1. God was disappointed with Cain's sacrifice because Cain was a lazy bastard who gave God his old rotten fruit, not the best of what he worked for. Abel, on the other hand, gave his most prized lamb that was in a sense because he WASN'T a lazy bastard. Cain got mad at Abel, when he should've been angry with himself, and killed him. God got pissed because, HELLO, Abel didn't do anything wrong, but Cain was already digging his grave. 2. Ok, the BIBLE was written before that stupid book, J.R.R. Tolkien is and was known for inadvertently plagiarizing the scripture and making his own fiction with it. 3. God was only ok with incest because there were no fucking people on earth except for noah and his family after the flood, 98% or something near that had been obliterated, he wasn't gonna let humanity end like that. Gays kill.... eachother. one word=AIDS two words=really sick.

OK, in the gratitude that you are actually answering my points unlike someone else, I'll grant you the first one, though I mean the idea of animal sacrifice is kinda insane anyway, but that's just personal opinion. So OK, maybe Cain was just being lazy and that's what hacked off the big man.

Point 2, yeah, me referencing The Silmarillion is just me being a dick. Mainly its the way that they both start off with a list of names, and it doesn't make for a particularly enthralling read. But it does get better later on. But yeah, the opening few chapters of the Silmarillion clearly do owe alot to the Bible, Genesis in particular.

Point 3. Can't agree. God allegedly killed 99.9999999999% of the population in the flood. Which of course is another example of his genocidal ways that I totally forgot about, somehow. But yeah, after a little research I've found that Lot was the nephew of Abraham, and he came 11 generations after Noah, so lot was 12 generations. If we work from current numbers like an average of 2 kids per family (obviously alot more in those days) & a lifespan of 75 years (also, considerably more in those days, Noah lived for nearly 1,000 years apparently), well work out the size of the family tree yourself. It'd have gotten to the stage that it really doesn't count as incest. I mean incest is between close blood relations, your brother/sister, mother/father, 1st cousins, aunts & uncles would all count as well. But once you get much further down the family tree than that it's really not such a big deal, and that was where they were by the time that Lot's daughters slept with him.
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#43 Posted : 07 August 2009 04:08:33(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Yep, Forkboy won at totally being an epic fail.

Yeah, even I wouldn't say "I won". It's debate. I mean unless I actually changed one persons beliefs, and I'm perfectly aware that I'm not going to, then I've won what exactly? It's a debate.

Yeah, I'm an arrogant, conceited shite. Because I can eloquently and factually defend my point. You really don't seem capable of either Steph, and that's the only reason I'm being a dick, because you aren't engaging me in a serious debate.

And to lighten things a little watch me fail to remember how to post a youtube video...

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#44 Posted : 07 August 2009 04:16:14(UTC)
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sharinganerror wrote:
Gays kill.... eachother. one word=AIDS two words=really sick.


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?!?!?!?
(I just decided to give this thread a read...)

Where the hell is Lewis?
Why is he not banned?
We got warned, but WHAT THE FUCK!

Heteros, like Cam said, get AIDs too! Steph, Stacy, Bik, Miles, and YOU (as well as EVERYONE ELSE!) has the same chance of getting AIDs that I do!!! Fuck ashflasjdfghwqjkanslgaweprwjenweAP'SFJBLERHGSFJN I hate you.
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#45 Posted : 07 August 2009 04:40:17(UTC)
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Heteros, like Cam said, get AIDs too! Steph, Stacy, Bik, Miles, and YOU (as well as EVERYONE ELSE!) has the same chance of getting AIDs that I do!!! Fuck ashflasjdfghwqjkanslgaweprwjenweAP'SFJBLERHGSFJN I hate you.

Credit where it's due, it was Rince who pointed out the AIDS BS, not me. He beat me to it and rendered me posting on it pointless. I do agree with his sentiments though, that post was hugely unpleasant. But hey that's kind of my point.
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#46 Posted : 07 August 2009 05:48:18(UTC)
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sharinganerror wrote:
1. God was disappointed with Cain's sacrifice because Cain was a lazy bastard who gave God his old rotten fruit, not the best of what he worked for. Abel, on the other hand, gave his most prized lamb that was in a sense because he WASN'T a lazy bastard. Cain got mad at Abel, when he should've been angry with himself, and killed him. God got pissed because, HELLO, Abel didn't do anything wrong, but Cain was already digging his grave.


And then he cursed Cain by making him black and sent him into exile in Africa?

sharinganerror wrote:
2. Ok, the BIBLE was written before that stupid book, J.R.R. Tolkien is and was known for inadvertently plagiarizing the scripture and making his own fiction with it.


No he isn't and wasn't.

sharinganerror wrote:
3. God was only ok with incest because there were no fucking people on earth except for noah and his family after the flood, 98% or something near that had been obliterated, he wasn't gonna let humanity end like that. Gays kill.... eachother. one word=AIDS two words=really sick.


AIDS has nothing to do with being gay. That it had such an impact on the gay community was an accident.
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#47 Posted : 07 August 2009 05:57:12(UTC)
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I hate when people say God punished gays with HIV/Aids.

First of all: Both Straight and Gay people can get HIV.
Second of all: God loves everyone, he wouldn't do that.

I hate when people say whats in bold. It's ignorant, prejudice and ARGG! I'm so mad at that statement I can't even think straight
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#48 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:13:40(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:

Second of all: God loves everyone, he wouldn't do that.

Why did he send the flood that killed everybody? Why did he tell Moses' people to go murderise people on a regular basis?

The Bible disputes the idea that God loves everyone. And if he did love everyone, then surely there would be no Hell?
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#49 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:18:09(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
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Second of all: God loves everyone, he wouldn't do that.

Why did he send the flood that killed everybody? Why did he tell Moses' people to go murderise people on a regular basis?

The Bible disputes the idea that God loves everyone. And if he did love everyone, then surely there would be no Hell?


Have you heard the saying, I do it because I love you.
You really don't read the new testament, almost everything that happened in the old testament was because Jesus wasn't here. God loves everyone, thats why he send his only son on Earth to forgive your sins, whenever you need a free get out of hell pass. Rules are rules, my nephew who I love very much whenever he does something wrong I punish him for it. God loves you but if you don't follow his rules your going to have to pay for it. Sorry that's just how it works, I wish I could know why but I'm not God.
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#50 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:25:08(UTC)
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Have you heard the saying, I do it because I love you.

Yeah, I have. It's commonly used by men who beat their wives or girlfriends.
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#51 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:31:47(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
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Have you heard the saying, I do it because I love you.

Yeah, I have. It's commonly used by men who beat their wives or girlfriends.


**Face Palms** You are so obtuse.
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#52 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:38:45(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
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Have you heard the saying, I do it because I love you.

Yeah, I have. It's commonly used by men who beat their wives or girlfriends.


**Face Palms** You are so obtuse.



He's an angle? ;)
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#53 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:40:36(UTC)
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troymazing wrote:
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Have you heard the saying, I do it because I love you.

Yeah, I have. It's commonly used by men who beat their wives or girlfriends.


**Face Palms** You are so obtuse.



He's an angle? ;)


He ain't sharp, he's dumb, thats what it basically means. His head is too open.
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#54 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:41:43(UTC)
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He ain't sharp, he's dumb, thats what it basically means. His head is too open.


I know what 'obtuse' means. lol.
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#55 Posted : 07 August 2009 06:43:29(UTC)
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troymazing wrote:
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He ain't sharp, he's dumb, thats what it basically means. His head is too open.


I know what 'obtuse' means. lol.


Oh lol!!
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#56 Posted : 07 August 2009 07:07:07(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
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He ain't sharp, he's dumb, thats what it basically means. His head is too open.


I know what 'obtuse' means. lol.


Oh lol!!

It was wordplay. Not complex stuff.

You keep saying I'm stupid Steph. And the irony doesn't stop being funny. Keep it up.
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#57 Posted : 07 August 2009 08:13:40(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
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He ain't sharp, he's dumb, thats what it basically means. His head is too open.


I know what 'obtuse' means. lol.


Oh lol!!

It was wordplay. Not complex stuff.

You keep saying I'm stupid Steph. And the irony doesn't stop being funny. Keep it up.


It was not meant to be complex, unless........

Shut up you moronic square. Yeah going all Geometry on you.

I really need to stop talking to you otherwise I will become as stupid as you.


Edit: Anyone can sound smart over the internet retard. Anyway, lets get back on topic.

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#58 Posted : 07 August 2009 11:03:51(UTC)
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Anyone can sound smart over the internet retard.


Except you apparently.

OH NO HE DI'N'T!
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#59 Posted : 07 August 2009 11:07:10(UTC)
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Anyone can sound smart over the internet retard.


Except you apparently.

OH NO HE DI'N'T!


If I sound dumb, then being Gay is wrong.

Oh no She Didn't.

Are you saying being Gay is Wrong?

Um, didn't think so.
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#60 Posted : 07 August 2009 20:07:19(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
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Anyone can sound smart over the internet retard.


Except you apparently.

OH NO HE DI'N'T!


If I sound dumb, then being Gay is wrong.

Oh no She Didn't.

Are you saying being Gay is Wrong?

Um, didn't think so.

That's a logical fallacy. You can be right while still sounding stupid and you can be wrong while sounding smart. I mean politicians do the latter on a daily basis.

The moral concept "being gay is wrong" is not in any way related to your intelligence. They have no effect on each other. Taking one and coming away with the other is just not possible in any way, shape or form. Because smart people can be wrong sometimes, and idiots can be right sometimes. Nobody is perfect.
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