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Offline Lepelbos  
#61 Posted : 27 August 2009 06:42:41(UTC)
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Yeah, it's really creative to howl like a wolf in a song about a wolf..


She wrote the song in 10 minutes and yes it was creative because that has never been done before. Its pathetic how you try to go against me in everything I say. Whatever because whatever you say is shit to me.


Everything in pop music is already done before. And i dont believe she wrote it herself. This kind of pop artists do what producers tell her to do. Just like all the Britneys in this world. Its not about music, but all about making hypes, making money, so little children will buy it. Stephany why dont you buy a book about the history of pop music and read it 1000 times.
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#62 Posted : 27 August 2009 07:44:23(UTC)
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Lepelbos wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
Yeah, it's really creative to howl like a wolf in a song about a wolf..


She wrote the song in 10 minutes and yes it was creative because that has never been done before. Its pathetic how you try to go against me in everything I say. Whatever because whatever you say is shit to me.


Everything in pop music is already done before. And i dont believe she wrote it herself. This kind of pop artists do what producers tell her to do. Just like all the Britneys in this world. Its not about music, but all about making hypes, making money, so little children will buy it. Stephany why dont you buy a book about the history of pop music and read it 1000 times.



Damn you picked the wrong one sweety,

First of all, shut the hell up already like seriously. Just because your smart at some things doesn't mean you are smart with everything. READ CAREFULLY. Everything in music (in general) has been said before. But what she did, brought something new to the table. No one has ever used the word "Lycanthropy" in pop music "EVER", no one has ever used the word "She-Wolf" in pop music "EVER". The song's lyrics in English sound quite terrible because it was written in Spanish first and that's what Shakira is more comfortable with (like me). But the Spanish version which she did wrote it in 10 minutes has more swagger and sounds better. The lyrics are more lengthy and broad. More witted and smart. And many of those good words couldn't be translated because they wouldn't rhyme. The person who wrote it with her in English still did a good job to give somewhat of the same message in English.

Shakira is a dictator in her music, if its not her way it is "no way". So you obviously don't know shit about Shakira. She writes and produces her own music and has a vision for everything she does. And of coarse she is going to get help from time to time, nobody is perfect and sometimes you need help. There are many songs that she has written herself that didn't go mainstream and because she didn't use help, because the lyrics are too weird but they are wonderful.

And let me tell you something, music is big business because you represent the label you come from and that's how they make their money. The whole cage thing has been done before but it hasn't been done like she has done it. Notice when the horn blows, she takes the sound and applies it to her dance in the cage. She doesn't just produce music, she produces dance with it and that's why I like her music. (take a look at the dark read at the bottom when you finish reading) Britney Spears is my favorite and I am fan of her but I appreciate Shakira's music much more than I do for Britney's. Shakira is a veteran of pop music and has brought many things to it.




Look at some of the lyrics in the spanish version translated in English (completely different)
Passing Stealthy
Passing Stealthy
That She Wolf is special
Look at it walk, walk

Who doesn't want lycanthropical goddess
In the heat of a romantic evening
My desires are called
I want a tame wolf

I finally found a cure that clears all that is to blame
I will not stay by your side watching TV and listening to you apologize
life has given me a ravenous appetite and you just give me caramels(candy)
I'll leave with my legs and my youth even though your killed jealousy

There's a She-wolf in the closet
She has desire to leave
Let her eat the neighborhood (Its a Spanish say) in other words, let her have fun)
Before she goes to sleep

I have magnetic stilettos that walk on water (it makes more sense in Spanish)
To leave the frenzied herd
The moon is full of good, like a fruit (All the good things in fruit are stored inside, once again it makes more sense in spanish)
It gives us advice and it listens



Take a look


Notice how in 0:10-0:13 she takes sound and applies it to her dance. I knew she was gonna do that for some reason its almost like she hinted it with the sound of the horn. Now that's what I call a good dance song.

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#63 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:24:11(UTC)
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So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.
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#64 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:25:33(UTC)
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Brand New - Sic Transit Gloria...

Possibly one of my favorate video's of all time... nicely done and fun.... Also helps that i am in love with the song..
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#65 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:29:26(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.


What the point you guys are trying to make, like seriously. This may not make sense to you, but Is not that she can dance to her own song is that her song can dance with her.
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#66 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:31:31(UTC)
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this is more a response to Steph saying Shakira is a good dance song....

this is a good dance song..
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#67 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:33:22(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
this is more a response to Steph saying Shakira is a good dance song....

this is a good dance song..


Lol, I'm not going to lie, thats a good dance song and a good listen but I'm comparing She wolf to current pop songs.
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#68 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:35:31(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.


What the point you guys are trying to make, like seriously. This may not make sense to you, but Is not that she can dance to her own song is that her song can dance with her.

I watched the video, thanks you for wasting 19 seconds of my life trying to make a point. She didn't accent the horns with dance AT ALL!
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#69 Posted : 27 August 2009 09:37:20(UTC)
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ALX wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.


What the point you guys are trying to make, like seriously. This may not make sense to you, but Is not that she can dance to her own song is that her song can dance with her.

I watched the video, thanks you for wasting 19 seconds of my life trying to make a point. She didn't accent the horns with dance AT ALL!


Then you must be either deaf or stupid......... or both. Go figure! Shame on you
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#70 Posted : 27 August 2009 10:24:49(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.


What the point you guys are trying to make, like seriously. This may not make sense to you, but Is not that she can dance to her own song is that her song can dance with her.

...I am speechless.

Someone else post reviews of songs they like. Some Stockhausen or something.
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#71 Posted : 27 August 2009 19:38:41(UTC)
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http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman

Elbow - Independant Woman...

The good video is obviously the rathergood.com one withsinging kittens..

taking a classic r and b song and turning it on its head... Genious
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#72 Posted : 27 August 2009 22:49:21(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
So she can dance to her own song. Big whoop.


What the point you guys are trying to make, like seriously. This may not make sense to you, but Is not that she can dance to her own song is that her song can dance with her.


That makes no sense. Have you ever heard of that guy who died recently... Martin Johnson was it? Marlon Jackford? Ach, I forget his name.

You're right though, having a dance synchronised to your own song in pop music is extremely innovative. I mean, until now people have just been moving randomly in their videos with no rhyme or reason. I also note that she's moving her mouth in time to the words - what a genius! And after all these years, somebody has finally made the connection between song subject and visual style. I'm so tired of all those RnB songs with slow motion videos of meat being chopped instead of provocatively dancing scantily clad girls - it seems so obvious now, but until Shakira, it was totally unheard of to have cage-dancing as a reference to wildness, animalism and sexuality.
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#73 Posted : 27 August 2009 23:19:27(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
Brand New - Sic Transit Gloria...

Possibly one of my favorate video's of all time... nicely done and fun.... Also helps that i am in love with the song..


Win win win win win!
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#74 Posted : 28 August 2009 01:37:52(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
Brand New - Sic Transit Gloria...

Possibly one of my favorate video's of all time... nicely done and fun.... Also helps that i am in love with the song..


Win win win win win!



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#75 Posted : 28 August 2009 04:15:47(UTC)
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Hmm. Interesting. Not that interesting.


Okay, makes no sense.

Isis, I like that you put some effort in, but I don't think videos work for you.
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#76 Posted : 28 August 2009 05:41:41(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
Lepelbos wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
Yeah, it's really creative to howl like a wolf in a song about a wolf..


She wrote the song in 10 minutes and yes it was creative because that has never been done before. Its pathetic how you try to go against me in everything I say. Whatever because whatever you say is shit to me.


Everything in pop music is already done before. And i dont believe she wrote it herself. This kind of pop artists do what producers tell her to do. Just like all the Britneys in this world. Its not about music, but all about making hypes, making money, so little children will buy it. Stephany why dont you buy a book about the history of pop music and read it 1000 times.



Damn you picked the wrong one sweety,

First of all, shut the hell up already like seriously. Just because your smart at some things doesn't mean you are smart with everything. READ CAREFULLY. Everything in music (in general) has been said before. But what she did, brought something new to the table. No one has ever used the word "Lycanthropy" in pop music "EVER", no one has ever used the word "She-Wolf" in pop music "EVER".


Patrick Wolf's debut album and title track were titled "Lycanthropy" and recieved vast credibility in the british music scene.

Also, the band +44 had a song called "Lycanthrope".
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#77 Posted : 28 August 2009 10:05:31(UTC)
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Ulver had an entire album called Lyckantropen Themes.

But then they aren't pop.
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So, just to get back on topic.

In my opinion, this video realy does mean something. The lyrics are beautifully put together, really making you believe what he is saying. You can feel the emotion when he says 'I'm so sexy it hurts'. You can tell it really does hurt.

But more on the video. I really like their outfits - they really fit the theme of the song. The paintbrush one the womans leg is so artistic.

Overall: 10/10
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#80 Posted : 29 August 2009 08:11:09(UTC)
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xNightsidex wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
Lepelbos wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
troymazing wrote:
Yeah, it's really creative to howl like a wolf in a song about a wolf..


She wrote the song in 10 minutes and yes it was creative because that has never been done before. Its pathetic how you try to go against me in everything I say. Whatever because whatever you say is shit to me.


Everything in pop music is already done before. And i dont believe she wrote it herself. This kind of pop artists do what producers tell her to do. Just like all the Britneys in this world. Its not about music, but all about making hypes, making money, so little children will buy it. Stephany why dont you buy a book about the history of pop music and read it 1000 times.



Damn you picked the wrong one sweety,

First of all, shut the hell up already like seriously. Just because your smart at some things doesn't mean you are smart with everything. READ CAREFULLY. Everything in music (in general) has been said before. But what she did, brought something new to the table. No one has ever used the word "Lycanthropy" in pop music "EVER", no one has ever used the word "She-Wolf" in pop music "EVER".


Patrick Wolf's debut album and title track were titled "Lycanthropy" and recieved vast credibility in the british music scene.

Also, the band +44 had a song called "Lycanthrope".


Oh my god, I just found out he did a cover of She Wolf in his tour. While changing he sang it.
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