Guest 001. WeekendIntroduction"Hello everyone and welcome to "Are We Having a Conversation?" I am your host Ryan Ross Hernandez. You may know me for my day job as a singer-songwriter and guitarist. I have been doing that for a very long time; in fact, just last year was the 20th anniversary of my debut album "Matters of the Heart" being released. I actually signed my first record deal the very same day Joshua Grimmie was conceived. True story. Now I know there has been a lot of speculation on who will be my guests on the program seeing as I have a lot of friends in this industry, so a lot of names have been thrown out there. And don't get me wrong, I love all of my friends who happen to be my peers. They are incredible. However, I'm unsure how willing they would be to come on the show. I have exhausted speaking with all of them, that they just begged me to go ahead and find some other outlet to bore folks with my constant need to hear myself talk. So, here I am! Thank you for indulging me, Apple!
Ultimately, what I want to accomplish with this talk show is create a space where artists and entertainers can open up about their lives and careers, and there is no sensationalism in the questions they are asked for any twisting of their stories. Where an individual can come and engage in thoughtful conversation about their passions in life. For the audience watching at home, I hope you can see your favorite personalities in a new light and maybe even learn more about how they got to this stage in their careers.
Today, I get to sit down with the biggest group in the world. They are five singers who did not know each other at all just a mere 11 years ago, but have gone on to take the entire damn world by storm over the last decade. Join me right now in welcoming, and feel free to cheer at home; they are Weekend!"---
"Oscar Ward. Dustyn Blue-Conners. Riley Hamilton. Billy Khan. Scott Wellington. The five members that make up Weekend. Welcome to 'Are We Having a Conversation?' Thank you all so much for joining me and being the first guests on the show. I know it came down to me or Oprah doing this interview, so thank you for choosing me over a proven talk show legend. You will all not walk away with a car from this."Riley: "That's all good. Billy still doesn't have a license and Dustyn drives like he's in Wacky Races."
Billy: "Oh, fuck off!"
Dustyn: "That was a little bit homophobic, Ri."
"Now, now, let's not get this show canceled within a minute. I thought you were suppose to be the glue who holds it all together, Riley. Haha! Has the dynamic amongst the five of you changed much over the years?"Scott: "Oh, don't let Hamilton fool you. Man's a dark horse!"
Dustyn: "See, Ri has this sweet, golden boy image which is like 95% accurate but he's not as innocent as people think. That kind of general level-headed nature makes it even funnier when he comes out with something that could make a sailor blush. Every so often he'll drop this golden nugget of a joke or remark and have us on the floor!"
Riley: "I plead the fifth! I plead the fifth! Ha! To answer your question though, I wouldn't say the dynamic has changed all that much. We're still very much the same people only a little bit more seasoned and experienced. I was going to say 'wiser' but...yeahhh..."
Oscar: "We're still the same but just matured versions of ourselves. Well, some of us are."
"How often are the five of you together in a room like this? These days is it something that happens only when you're working as Weekend members or do you regularly just hang out as friends?"Oscar: "It's rare nowadays for us to just sit and chill like this. We're still together a lot of the time but that's usually a work thing. Scott also splits his time between L.A. and London, and Dusty recently moved back to Ireland. There's usually one or two of us missing or someone calling in on FaceTime so it's nice to be together like this again."
Scott: "We still talk everyday even when we're not in the same country. These are my brothers. For better or worse."
Billy: "I'm the 'worse'."
"Hopefully Weekend fans can stop trying to cancel me on Twitter after today. Don't worry folks, I'm not trying to sweep my previous comments under the rug. We all know what I said in the early days of you guys coming together, however that's not even a blimp in the meteoric rise of Weekend. How does it feel to be the biggest group in the world right now? How aware of that are you?"Riley: "It sounds like a weird thing to say but sometimes we forget that we're famous. I hate that word but you know what I mean. I think it's because we haven't really changed that much as people and move in the same, small circle. It's a bubble that keeps us sane. You're only really reminded of it when you step out of that comfort."
Dustyn: "Yeah, you definitely feel it more places than others. L.A. is always a hectic place to visit with the paparazzi. Japan and Australia also brings the crowds. Nobody gives a shit in London, haha!"
Oscar: "Yeah, London's quite big and extremely busy. Every so often you get stopped for a photo but most of the time, people just whizz on by. They've got more important things to do."
"Was that a conscious decision to remain based in the U.K. for the most part? Los Angeles is the entertainment capital of the world, so was there ever a possibility you would have moved stateside at any stage of your career?"Oscar: "It just made sense to stick to London. It's where we were formed. Two of us already lived there, four of us were already living in England. It was easier for us to grow and cope on familiar home soil than uprooting all of us young, inexperienced boys to Los Angeles."
Riley: "Obviously, at one point, Scott moved to be with his wife and Dustyn recently went back to Ireland but I think being based in London helped with the branding for a long time. Much to the dismay of some people, we often get compared to The Beatles and I think our management liked the idea of marketing us as a "British Invasion" band when we launched."
Dustyn:
*coughs*Riley: "Sorry, "British-Irish" invasion band."
Billy: "We really should've debuted with the tagline; "The British Are Coming!"
Dustyn: "I in no way condone British invasion of any type. Let's put that on record here!"
"When each of you look back on the last 10 years, how do you personally view the impact that Weekend collectively has had on the music industry?"Billy: "We definitely opened the doors for a lot of boy bands and pop acts in general. We were torn limb from limb in the media and the industry when we debuted but a few months down the line, other labels were churning out boy bands of their own. Guess they all wanted a Weekend moment. That cloning period has since died down but it's no longer 'embarrassing' to be part of or support a boy band these days. There's no need for unnecessary, rude comments anymore...Ryan."
Scott: "We definitely didn't invent the concept of boy bands or pop music but those were dirty words back then. We still had The Titans, Isabel and Brittany Knox doing the pop thing but even they were subjected to some nasty shit. In 2011/2012, things were very glossy and refined. We sort of turn that on its head."
Dustyn: "I think that's why a lot of people didn't like us. The chart trends were very pristine and artsy. You had the classic singer-songwriters like yourself, Ellie-Grace and Katie Coyle. Then you had your high-fashion, glossy and avantgarde stars like Glamazon, Stephanie Fierce, Vanity, ElectroDeath. We turned up; five amateur teenage lads with peach fuzz on our lips, singing the poppiest of pop songs, wearing our own wardrobes and having no real structure. That's what got a lot of backs up but I think that's what also worked in our favour too."
Oscar: "I like to think that most people have a respect for our longevity, drive and tenacity. We broke ground over time because we persevered and naturally stacked up our achievements. There was no pretence or big vision of changing the world of music. We have just kept on going, doing what we love because we
are still in love with what we do. Thankfully it has also resonated with people around the world."
Riley: "Oscar hit the nail on the head with the whole perseverance thing. I like to think Weekend's biggest achievement is slowly turning the haters into fans or at least make them able to tolerate us. I feel like most people can hear one of our songs without wanting to vomit blood now. We just kept on pushing and adapting. When we performed in the early days, you could clearly see the brothers and fathers who were dragged along to our shows. Now we see them singing along."
"Your fanbase has certainly expanded over the years. As Riley mentioned, the demographics have grown and now it's almost like Weekend is a family affair where everyone can just go to a concert together and have a wonderful time. I know you've never aimed to be role models or idolized but you are. Many teenagers found the courage to come out thanks to Dustyn. Some kid figured out they were an asshole thanks to Billy. Somebody right now is making music in their bedroom because they connected to their very core with a Weekend record. How much does that influence how you carry yourselves and continue to build out your career?"Billy: "Some kid realised he was wasting his time listening to one of your records. I love the power of music, don't you?"
Scott: "As you can see, it doesn't impact how some of us carry ourselves, ha!"
Riley: "We don't make a point of changing ourselves in order to be a certain way. I think our authenticity, faults and all, is what gives us such mass appeal. We do think about and consider the fans in everything we do though. We see the tweets, we see the messages, we see the voting. We're aware of financial and geographical situations which we keep in mind when it comes to touring, pricing, appearances. The quality of our releases...it's all for them. They're never an afterthought. Very much part of the team and our world."
Dustyn: "I also feel a sense of duty to represent those in LGBTQ community as best as I can. I've had so many messages over the last ten years saying how I helped them to come out and feel comfortable in their skin. It tugs at my heart and I don't know these people so I can't go and give them that hug I want to. So, to spread and share the love, I just keep on advocating and trying to be a voice for good. Doing things that a lot of people who look up to me just don't have the power to. Might not physically be there with them but, in my heart, I'm always there for them. They've got me and I've got them."
"Hitting that decade mark as a group is quite the anomaly. I know you were all very young when you came together and now you're all full-fledged adults in your late 20s and early 30s, so of course personalities change and develop greatly in that span. How have you managed to stay together through the years?"Scott: "Touching back on what the lads were just saying; determination. We had our obstacles to overcome and I think that made us a tightknit group. Us against the world. We love the music and all that comes with it but I think a huge part of our longevity is down to having a point to prove, ha!"
Billy: "We made a point of hanging around out of spite. So many people had shit to say about us young lads who just wanted to sing. Bunch of people in the industry wanted us to fail and that just made us work harder. Most of the people who were dicks to us are nowhere to be found now. Makes me feel very smug and I love it."
Dustyn: "It also helps that we're all best friends. We're brothers. The conception of the band was very manufactured but these bonds are so real and organic. I love these boys. Don't know what the future holds for the band but I know that
this is for life."
Oscar: "Yes, we're all
BEST friends."
"Was there ever a moment where Weekend nearly disbanded? Was that ever a conversation had amongst the five of you or were you all laser focused on making it work through the adversity?"Oscar: "Speaking of being besties...uhhh....haha!"
Billy: "There's been a few times when a couple of punches have been thrown. Few choice words were had. Not naming any names."
Riley: "We've had our scrapes over the years. A decade together, five very strong personalities. It's inevitable but like we said earlier, this is a family. We get mad at each other but it's always resolved and there's love underneath it all. We've had blips where things have looked rocky for a moment but we get over it pretty quickly. An actual proper, serious split has never been on the cards."
Scott: "Yeah, it's usually petty shit like; "I'm not talking to him ever again!". It lasts about a week and then we're in the booth harmonising together."
"Let's go back to start for a moment. The group was formed by Lyrica Ocha, formerly of girl group G2L. I know Dustyn and Oscar, both of you were handpicked to audition for this all-male pop act. You both had some slight connections in the business. The rest of you answered an ad on a British publication. With that said, the initial mindset going into it must have been slightly different depending on how you reached that stage. I'll start with Dustyn and Oscar first, did you each enter those auditions with some confidence that you'd be a part of this thing?"Dustyn: "I was shitting a brick. I'm a very distant relative of Lyrica's. Like a cousin of a cousin...something like that. I only heard about the audition because my wonderful Aunt Caroline, who lives in London, telephoned my family and put in a word on my behalf. Before that, I lived a very quiet and rural life. It was 2011 but I was still living like it was the 1950's. We got all our supplies from a little local shop in the village. Going to London was not only the first time I had left Ireland but my first time in an actual big city! The journey itself was overwhelming never mind the audition. I wasn't confident at all. It was all new to me, I was so nervous and I wanted it really badly. I remember thinking my knees were going to give out."
Oscar: "I wasn't confident that I would get it but I wasn't that nervous. I was used to performing for others and I knew that a good word was put in for me so I was aware that the people in the room had a little faith. None of us could have envisioned what the project would become so, in my mind, I was just auditioning for this really good opportunity that may result in a record deal and some exposure. I had no idea what was ahead when I got into the band."
"Billy, Scott, and Riley; how were each of your perspectives in comparison going into those auditions?"Scott: "To me, it was yet another audition so the process wasn't too scary but the difference was that I
really wanted this one. I went to a performing arts college. I'd star in our productions and also go off to audition for all sorts of jobs whether it was music or TV related. I definitely work well in a group environment and of course I knew who Lyrica was prior to going in. I knew that it was a wonderful opportunity. Never wanted a job more in my life. I was preparing myself for rejection. Was the story of my life on these auditions so to actually get the dream job? I still pinch myself 10 years on."
Riley: "I was nearly late! I hadn't been down to London before and I vastly underestimated the traffic situation. I was more nervous about being late than the whole singing in front of a bunch of strangers thing. My heart was in my mouth in the back of the taxi...then it dropped when I was told how much it cost me. I was literally in that audition with an empty wallet. In a way, it was a blessing I didn't have to suffer much of the nerves that come with sitting around in a waiting room. My adrenaline was high. I finally got there and within two or three minutes, I was in the room singing. To me, it was such a rush of a day."
Billy: "I saw it as an opportunity to make money, in all honesty. I was sofa-surfing at the time. I literally had fuck all to lose and everything to gain. I didn't have much going for me aside from the fact that I could sing and cook. No money, no qualifications, no real home. Luckily it was held in the same city I live in so it wasn't too difficult getting there. I wasn't thinking about fame or even anything to do with being an artist. I just needed a way out of the gutter. I remember thinking I wouldn't get it. I looked around and could see all these pretty, well-groomed boys who clearly had experience and star-quality. I was sat sulking in the far corner in my tracksuit. I really didn't belong there."
"After each of you were chosen, almost immediately thereafter you were all moved into an apartment to live together in London. You were all strangers to each other at that point. How difficult was that transition from one day to the next?"Oscar: "It was a bit of a culture shock and rather jarring at first. Living in a small flat with four strangers who are now also colleagues whilst a management company are lingering over you and saying; "become friends!", it was rather daunting at first. It worked though."
Riley: "And that place was
small. Five of us packed in like sardines. For myself, Dusty, and Oscar, it was our first time living away from our parents. It definitely wasn't as cosy as home. Billy stepped up with his home-cooked meals though. I remember that being a ritual and part of the glue that bound us together. We'd all sit down to whatever Billy conjured up."
Billy: "That made me feel wanted and part of a team for the first time ever, really. I was the only one that could cook like that and we didn't even have the money to order out much so we had to make do. We all learned the value of pasta and how far it can go."
Dustyn: "We were all living on top of each other with hardly any money. Wasn't glamorous at all but we were forged in that fire. In a tiny box house like that, there's nowhere to hide. You HAVE to talk and get along with each other. At first it was hard adapting and compromising to five different ways of living but when you have no privacy, close bonds have to be formed. Once you've been naked or farted in front of someone, there's no going back, haha!"
Scott: "So thankful I no longer live with you or Billy. Christ!"
"The onset of Weekend was marred by the high expectations and disdain for the perceived "manufactured" way it was formed. In those early days, from an artistic standpoint especially, how in control of the narrative did you feel like you were at the start?"Riley: "Oh, right at the very beginning we had zero input. Some of the material that ended up on our album was already written or partially existed before the group even formed. The project was already in motion when we auditioned. We didn't even name ourselves. It was our first management company."
Each of you found your love and passion for music in differing ways yet still had a very strong conviction with that art form. Did you ever feel like you were losing that when you saw how much control the powers that be had on the final product fans heard?"Oscar: "Definitely. I was in a band with some mates from school before joining Weekend. We played our instruments and wrote our own songs. Granted, they were pretty shit looking back, but to go from that to being told to sing specific words in very specific ways, it was rather stifling. I vividly remember a conversation with Dustyn about it back in the day. We both considered ourselves as songwriters and the control of the management made us feel like we just weren't good enough."
Dustyn: "Yeah and I do understand it to an extent. They were the 'professionals', we were newbies, they had a lot of money and expectations riding on the project. Of course they wanted to manage it and make sure we had our best shot but a lot of conversations that were had did seem rather...undermining. They wanted us to shut up, have no opinion or real personality and just sing the 'guaranteed hits' they had. With five boys like us, that was never going to happen!"
Scott: "Our personalities still came through in the end. We fought for a little creative leeway. Even if they could control the music, they could still never control us on stage or on TV. I think that's why we
really played up back in the day. Bit of rebellion against those trying to suffocate us and proving a point that we can garner success and attention without the guidance of some boring old farts."
"How was the process in making 'Fired Up' your debut album? I know most of the songs were already written for you guys and the recording aspect was done in just a few short months."Billy: "It was fun but a little frustrating at times. On one hand, it was a fucking dream to be in a big, expensive recording studio and singing your heart out. On the other, there was a LOT of dictating going on. We didn't take too kindly to the poking and prodding, especially me. From very early on, we could see that a lot of people around us viewed us as products and not people. Had to nip that in the bud."
Oscar: "I remember feeling quite awkward and embarrassed recording it. One, it just wasn't my kind of music. I also felt like I put a few noses out of joint and felt a pressure on me because the producers and management pushed myself as the lead vocalist."
Scott: "The recording was more joyous than the album playback. I remember that feeling like a punch in the gut. For a lot of the songs, all five of us would record multiple different parts of the tracks and the producers would stitch together a full song based on who they thought sounded best on each part. I got like three lines on the whole album."
"Who was the loudest voice during that early stage to speak up and fight to have that input? You're not allowed to say Billy, even if he was the most vocal."Billy: "Oi, what makes you think that?!"
Riley: "I think that we all realised things weren't right but I'd say Dustyn and Scott were essential in that push. Dustyn from a creative standpoint and Scott from the business side of things."
Dustyn: "I pushed for writing credits. I'd write my own little songs with my guitar before the band and I was also really naïve. I thought most artists wrote their own stuff. Kinda felt like we were being lazy and cheating just singing words written by strangers. There was also the fact that a bunch of the stuff we were being presented with was all about girls...and I was a raging little homo, haha!"
Scott: "I was no business expert but I had worked enough to know the horror stories and see tell-tale signs. We were worked silly in 2012 and a lot of people around us who barely lifted a finger were benefitting greatly. A lot of people closed up or got an attitude when we questioned things. We just weren't comfortable with all these different people being involved in our money, schedules, careers, lives, really. We were achieving so much but were too tired to appreciate it and the diary wasn't letting up. I knew we had to take control otherwise it'd be major burnout."
"Do you ever go back and listen to those songs on the first record? From an artist's point of view, I think you always find room for improvement especially with your debut LP as you get older and make more records. Looking back at that album 10 years later, are you just proud of accomplishing that or are there some lingering regrets when you hear it?"Oscar: "I...hate it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I know I shouldn't say that as it's the 10th anniversary but it's just not my album. Also not very keen on it as touring it blew my voice out. We wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for "Fired Up" but...yeah...it's not for me."
Billy: "I love it. To me, it's a snapshot of the moment our lives changed. Might not be a ground-breaking record but it's an important one. Only thing I'd change is the vocal distribution but we weren't in control of that."
Riley: "I think most of us go back and forth on it. It's clearly a juvenile record. We sound so young on it and it's a hodgepodge of sounds that were popular at the time. It's a VERY 2012 album. It got us a lot of flack and we didn't have as much say in it as we would have liked but it
is a fun record and it put us on the map. It's very high energy in places and I can't help but smile when I hear it."
Scott: "I definitely developed a new appreciation for it while we were remastering the album just there. Bit generic but there are some fucking bangers on there."
Dustyn: "Am I the only one who always loved it? Haha!"
"Upon hearing you all talk about that debut album and the different perspectives; how do you make it work as a group? How much time and effort goes into making a record that each of you can be happy and proud of? I've been a solo artist nearly my entire career up until very recently and even just working with Ellie-Grace Summers, when you add another creative mind, you're not always going to be on the same page. I can't even imagine how it is with five of you."Riley: "You know what? This might sound crazy but I feel like there's the spiritual sixth member of the group..."
Billy: "Oh, here we go!"
Riley: "No, like, we're all very different people and artists but when it comes to Weekend we're all so in tune. We can all go off and do our own thing, listen to our own styles of music, read the books we like, watch the movies we love, but when it comes to what we want and would like for the band, we're always in sync. There's an energy, a synergy. There's this feeling all of us get when we just
know. We know that we're heading on the right path, we know when an album's finished, we know when the timing's right. You don't think that, Billy?"
Billy: "I do agree, mate. I just wouldn't call it 'spiritual'. I just think that we've spent so long in each other's pockets over the last ten years that we just know what we're doing."
Scott: "We're sort of like those people who menstruate together."
Dustyn: "Scott...why??"
Riley: "He's right though. The flow we have is pretty mean."
Oscar: "RILEY HAMILTON, HAHAH!"
Dustyn: "See what I mean about his little comments!"
"You've each written songs for Weekend to a varying degree. Some are written by all five of you, others only involve a few. What are your favorite songs that you've been a part of writing? Which do you see on a setlist and are giddy to perform?"Dustyn: "I wouldn't say it's our best song but 'Smile About It' holds a special place in my heart. It was our first #1, opened so many doors for us and was also the first song we all wrote together. We were given an opportunity to write for the debut and we brainstormed this over my acoustic guitar. Once it was taken to the studio, it became this beast of a track. The success and reception of it really gave us confidence as writers. A song I dread performing is 'Lock It Up'. It's a banger but I can't catch a bloody breath during it!"
Scott: "I think 'Crash' from the first album is fucking epic. Dusty and I threw everything at that one. Still think it should've been a single. We haven't performed it in 10 years but I remember it going down so well. Also, 'How It Ends' from the 'About Time' album is another I'm proud of. I struggle with writing ballads but I think that's a real solid one."
Riley: "For me, it's 'Poster Boy' and 'Our Song' from the last album. Very poignant and personal songs. The fans seem to respond well to those too. Always humbling hearing people sing back words you've penned."
Billy: "Sorry, Dusty but I think my favourite to do is 'Lock It Up'. It's a fucking tit-slapper of a song. It's the sonic equivalent of huffing poppers. I remember the pressure being on from the label to get a second #1 and we were worried about not being able to match 'Smile About It'. We knocked it out the park with this one."
Oscar: "Riley mentioned my favourite, 'Poster Boy. Also 'One for the Road' from the same album. The whole 'Welcome to the Real World' record is what I'm most proud of in our career thus far. Really showcases our growth not only as artists but as people too. Beautiful album if I do say so myself."
"By 2015 you had gone your own route and created 'Five Pesky Kids' which gave you the opportunity to be in control of your image and what music you put out. How important was that move both personally and as artists?"Billy: "So many snakes in the industry and a bunch of slimeballs waiting on the outskirts, ready to strike and take advantage. We don't want anyone infiltrating and trying to destroy what we've built. We own everything. Our art, our money, our say."
Dustyn: "Being our own bosses helps so much with personal lives and schedules too. We're all fathers and have other projects going on too. When it's just you and your best friends, there's less worry and no clinical feeling about navigating your job. We're all flexible and scratch each others backs."
Riley: "Also helps to be happy with your art and image. I know that a lot of artists aren't as lucky, having to record and release things they don't particularly care for. Some even being told what to wear and say because of a specific image their team wants them to maintain. It's much more free-flowing for us and I'm eternally grateful for that."