A couple of weeks later, Kara and Younghood were back in New York, having eventually turned their situationship into an official relationship after a year or more of vibing with each other. They were in and out of the studio themselves, having just dropped their first collection of tracks together in the form of an E.P and were determined to keep on working together while the inspiration was there.

However, it was another project of Younghood's that was occupying his time as he had been enlisted to produce some tracks for Jadyn Ghalen in New York for his debut album. Jadyn was already at 'Penthouse Recording Studios' in Manhattan, New York, awaiting the arrival of Younghood and likely with Kara, as well as their label mate Thick Mouse who was arriving with the intention of potentially featuring on a track with Jadyn.

Jadyn had been impressed with “Ten” and “Thicc Girl”, he liked the back and forth between Thick Mouse and Murda Bling on the most recent track and having met her on the ‘Orion’ tour in January and seen her performances he thought there was potential for a great collab between them. Although it was very much relaxed, nothing locked in but if they came up with something great, if not it wasn’t a problem. He placed his joint in the ashtray as she came into the room, “Shit, you rocking the fur? East Coast weather ain’t playin, huh?” he says as he leans across a chair and gives her a hug, “You feeling good?” he asks, making a spot for her to take a seat, taking his joint and picking back up where he left off.

Jadyn made an enthusiastic howl as Younghood came into the room, fully tailored. He stood up and greeted his friend with a handshake, “You good, man?” he asks, “Where you just came from cause I know that look ain’t your studio vibe.” He says with a slight chuckle. He gestured to Thick Mouse, “Now that’s how you show up to a studio session.” He says in reference to her fur hoodie and boots. "You been on business?" He asks.

Jadyn laughed, “I got you, girl.” He said, taking a hit from his joint before passing it across to her, unsure whether she partook he nodded, “I hear that. Shit, I grew up in the cold but I been in California too long.” although he was raised in Detroit, he had lived in California for the past five years and had grown accustomed to that lifestyle. He nodded as she showed interest in his future plans, “Yeah, we on our own vibe now. We said we’d put out that last record, tour it and then do our own shit for a while.” He nodded, before returning the interest. “How about you? I caught your stuff on tour, you looking like you’re ready to blow em’ up.”

Jadyn nodded as Nire talked about Business and music going hand in hand, “I hear that. Shit ain’t worth our time if we ain’t reaping the rewards.” Jadyn was very much driven by the financial aspect of what he did, it was important to him to understand his worth. In his view, there was no benefit of being critically acclaimed but be struggling financially. He also believed in bringing those that he trusted up with him whenever he could, support acts on tour, producers, collaborators were always handsomely paid for their time and efforts. Jadyn laughed a little at the back and forth between Thick Mouse and Younghood. “I hear Kara’s dropping by too, I hear you guys are legit now?”

“It’s how we do it in California” he says, as he receives the joint back from her and takes another hit. Despite Jadyn’s confidence and single minded-ness he was always willing to support anybody with talent and dedication to their craft, he had received that same support from those that were higher on the totem pole when Orion first started out and was more than happy to keep that tradition going. “You know where I’m at, I can connect you to creative people, influential people, business people. All that shit.” He says, in an offer of support to help her find that spark. “What do you think you’re missing?” he says, with genuine interest.

Jadyn nodded as Thick Mouse told Nire she could handle herself, he gave a smirk at her confidence, without realising it, she had just showcased her strongest quality in that moment. He nodded as Younghood spoke about them finding their own feet as individual artists, it was always the plan for them to do a couple of albums together and then figure out their own paths. “We’re all on different vibes, putting a record together ain’t the easiest. I’m ready to get into my own groove this time out.”
Jadyn took another hit from the joint, placing it back down before considering Younghood’s question, “Right now, I’m feeling a low-fi RnB sort of vibe that I want to get into. People been expecting high-tempo trap shit all the time, I wanna show that I can rap over something slower and more melodic, y’know?”

As he sits with Younghood at the desk, Kara walks into the room. Casually dressed in jeans and a t-shirt with a leather jacket, she places a hand on Thick Mouse’s shoulder and gives her a smile, “Hey girlie, how’s it going?” she says, giving Younghood and Jadyn a chance to finish their discussion before greeting them.

Kara smiles as Thick Mouse greets her, it was nice for her to not just be hanging with the boys for once. “Girl, you’ll find it.” She says before laughing a little, “Shit, it took me like ten years to figure it out. With the stuff you’ve put out there, you’re already ahead of where I was.” She says with a reassuring smile. She was a very supportive person with hype woman type qualities. She laughs a little at the comment about her and Younghood, “It’s pretty accurate, he’s managed to find a way to lock me down.” She shakes her head in mock disbelief, she’s never been a relationship type of person and has always been pretty independent, so it was definitely new territory for her. “How about you? Shit must be going crazy right now, you can’t sell me on that focused on myself bullshit, they gotta be lining up round the block?.”

Jadyn watched on as Nire tried to figure out the right type of sound, he listened and nodded, “That’s definitely the vibe, if you can lay that melody down for like three, four minutes and loop a subtle beat underneath that shit, I think I can fuck with that.” He says, confident that Nire was capable of delivering what he was looking for. He greeted Kara as she sat down in the booth with the three of them, watching them work a few ideas back and forth, occasionally chiming in with her critique.

Kara nodded “Took some time to figure my shit out but it’s been good these last few years.” She occasionally halted the conversation to listen in to some of what Nire and Jadyn were doing before returning back to her conversation with Thick Mouse, “How’s the Just Record gang working out for you?” she says with a smile. She knew how supportive they had been with Kara finding her lane over the years.

Jadyn listened and nodded as the track played with the adjustments made, “I fuck with it, I do.” He says approvingly, “I got you in mind, but I don’t want to bring something to the table that ain’t something special. We jump on a track together, it’s gotta be worth that hype.” He says confidently, knowing that they will both collaborate on a track at some stage but didn’t want to just do it for the sake of doing it. He wanted it to have a feeling of two worlds colliding.
He considered Nire’s question about themes but with it being his first solo effort, it was an opportunity to showcase what he can do without trying to fit into a certain narrative or theme, “One day, but this round I’m just going old school record making. Recording a ton of shit and we putting the best of the best on the record. Keep it simple for that debut record, y’know?”

Kara nodded as Thick Mouse spoke and a lot of the uncertainty was definitely familiar to Kara’s own experience when she came into the music industry. “You can only control so much of how you’re perceived. You can put out deep and introspective shit and change that narrative a little, but there’s always going to be people that will focus on your looks, no matter what type of music you make.” She thought for a second about what good advice she could offer, “Honestly, the best thing you can do is just ride out the vibe wherever it takes you. Right now, you’re still pretty new, maybe put out a couple of tracks that are so far away from the ass and titties type of shit and see how it plays out.” She considers her advice before adding her own experience, “Shit, those type of songs are good but they don’t sustain a career of work. If you can make every release something different enough from the last, then I think you’re onto a good thing.” She laughs a little at the question about record deals, “Fuck, I had a deal with Studio60 when I was 17 and thought my lane was alternative rock!” she says with another fit of laughter, “I didn’t know who I was and they sure as fuck didn’t know what to do with me.”

Jadyn listens to Younghood’s input, “Seems like everything has to have some theme or tone. Brayton was too into that shit on the Orion albums. Man, I just wanna record a ton of stuff and put the best of that shit on the album. Lay down some tracks and figure out what I wanna say on em’ later.” He says confidently. Kara laughs a little before chiming in, “Hey, just don’t be giving away all the good beats. We got a whole fucking album to do ourselves, Nire!”

Jadyn nodded as Nire spoke, he listened when Nire spoke because he spoke from a place of experience in all aspects of this industry, “Fuck, my mentality is that I put in the work to justify some of the arrogant shit that I say. Make sure I can back my own talk up with the work.” He says, laughing slightly but he was being truthful, he wanted to make sure that he could back up whatever cocky attitude he had. He nodded and laughed a little as Thick confronted Nire about putting her business out there, “He’s right though, you can get too precious over your own shit, just because it’s got your name attached to it. Put as much shit out there, that’s the only way you’re going to know if people fuck with it or not, y’know?” he says to Thick, offering his own advice on her situation.

Kara took the joint from Nire’s hand and took a hit before passing it back to him, she nodded as the spoke and then laughed a little as Nire mentioned Drew and Kara’s collab, “Fuck, you got me on that one.” She says, laughing a little more. “Everybody’s so fucking friendly with each now though, I think you need that friction to drive you on a little and try to push yourself.” She says, relaxing back in her chair slightly, “You’re right though. I didn’t feel like there was any chemistry between me and Drew on that track but I knew that just the idea that he was on a track would get a different vibe from you, it’s all competition at the end of the day. If I said, yeah we recorded a track together but didn’t really get along, then you might not have brought it like you did.”