Yea and that some can be a couple lines or the majority of the song. You can't go around claiming she wrote the song and she is a genius songwriter without revealing she didn't write it all by herself. Same thing with the production stuff, she didn't do it by herself, so don't go around extolling the greatness of her production skills without crediting all the other people producing with her.

Well I would imagine the music, which received a lot of praise, (you yourself said critics loved the instrumental) is important to the song. You made it seem like the whole song was written by Shakira but even the composition wasn't done by her, I think that is part of being a songwriter and not just a lyricist.

Yea, and when I listen to the album (its coming through the magical internet pipes as we speak) and decide that it isn't all that great what will your defense be then? That I hate pop music so I was never going to like it? If "She Wolf" is as awesome as you say it is then I would assume it is better than her earlier stuff, if she needed help to write "She Wolf" and it is better than her earlier stuff I would assume she isn't this super genius songwriter and the people helping her out elevated her music.

I was just pointing out that your magnificent songwriter didn't do that song by herself and to not even mention that she didn't write it by herself until confronted with that information is misleading.

I remember her saying in one of her songs she wrote in 1999.

"When you leave, I'll let you borrow my nose and my flesh, so you can smell the feeling I get when I'm alone".
Do you get the sexual reference in there?


"Who says that? she's a weirdo, but I like her. "Was my response when I first heard it.

Edit: By the way I translated that. The song is in Spanish and in Spanish it rhymes.

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I have to kinda agree with you.

For me there have been a few really good tracks.

Enter Shikari - Solidarity This is a live recording from the first date in their 2009 UK tour in Norwich, Was an amazing night out, and it was my 18th birthday!


God & Satan From Biffy Clyros album Only Revolitions is awesome.

Another favourite of the year would have to be well, the massive amount of dubstep produced, i won[t post a link but i'm sure you can search Caspa, Chase & Status and Rusko :).

I love how bands have to put in this sort of effort recording and writing everything and get almost no recognition, but on the odd occasion a 'popstar' gets off their arse and does something they're incredible for it.

The facts I mentioned about Shakira's song are true.

And the song is extremely unique and has had huge impact in Latin America. More than Thriller I would say. Especially the video. In terms of sound and production the song is amazing. Have you heard anything like "She wolf" in the radio for the past 10 years? I can even say 20 years. Um no. Why does that make it a goo song? Will because it has an unique sound that radios's haven;t played since the mid- late 70's. In my opinion songs these day sound very similar these day. Just my opinion.

In terms of music video, the creativity is just there. Yeah she honors the King Of Pop in some parts but she does it in a creative way. The song is not even about being a wolf at all. The howling is just a way of showing how animalistic women can be when they let it out. Like she said I can really sound like a wolf if I wanted to but I want to sound like a feminine one. More closer to woman than an actual wolf. Shakira was asked if New Moon (twilight) were to want the song on the soundtrack, what would she say? Shakira then said that as much as she likes Twilight, it doesn't have the same concept and that She wolf is like a movie of its own and by doing so. The song would loose its original concept

To me the songs music video would have to be the best music video of the decade as well.

I'm gonna let you finish but yo, Beyonce had like the best music video ever.