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Offline Paradox  
#21 Posted : 03 February 2010 11:26:00(UTC)
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I'm not sure we want a new Bon Jovi.

Seriously though, you gotta look for new bands with a sound developed by themselves, because at the end you still have your acdc records if you wanna listen to something that sounds like acdc. That's just my point of view.
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#22 Posted : 03 February 2010 11:55:13(UTC)
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I didnt mean like other bands, but in the same style of music instead of all this crappy new sounds that suck so much.

Why does no one like Bon Jovi?
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#23 Posted : 03 February 2010 12:47:47(UTC)
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Okay, does anyone here know of any new bands who sound like old bands such as

Ac/dc
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Why would you want new bands to sound like old bands? Wouldn't they then just be pale imitations of older, better bands?

Also, Wolfmother. And Airbourne . They're both so like AC/DC, that when I actually heard them, I literally wanted to kick the universe to death.

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#24 Posted : 03 February 2010 13:17:48(UTC)
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Again, not exactly like old bands, but in the same style as old bands. I cant stand the new style of rock music that most people like and I was just wondering if there was anyone who has the classic style that I like.
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#25 Posted : 03 February 2010 17:22:47(UTC)
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I didnt mean like other bands, but in the same style of music instead of all this crappy new sounds that suck so much.

Why does no one like Bon Jovi?


Its because his music is unbearably crap.
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#26 Posted : 03 February 2010 18:29:40(UTC)
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To each their own, but I quite like it.
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#27 Posted : 03 February 2010 18:46:54(UTC)
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I must add, I did like Bon Jovi at one stage around his glam rock days (when I was just a dumb kid) but I stopped after he did the sound track for that gunslinger style movie.
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#28 Posted : 03 February 2010 18:47:58(UTC)
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That movie sucked, and most of what he did after that sucked too, but his latest album is kind of a return to awesomeness.
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#29 Posted : 03 February 2010 21:08:04(UTC)
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Again, not exactly like old bands, but in the same style as old bands. I cant stand the new style of rock music that most people like and I was just wondering if there was anyone who has the classic style that I like.



Well no, but you seem to be suggesting that there is one single unifying quality about all these bands, and that similarly all new music lacks any merit. Those are two ridiculous generalisations. I listened to a lot of classic prog in my teens, so for me the true "classic" bands were Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, King Crimson, Camel, Caravan, Rush. I see a direct lineage between these bands and the likes of Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Kayo Dot. Not that they're retreading the same ground, but they're working from the same starting point of combining rock energy and a level of complexity either in compositional or production terms. Bands like Bon Jovi, Queen, AC/DC, Styx, etc. The defining quality seems to be of Anthemic rock tunes, but beyond that, their lineage is just all those bands who like playing rock and roll. The anthem has largely gone out of style, but then that Kings of Leons' song Sex on Fire comes along to make me sad.
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#30 Posted : 04 February 2010 02:06:34(UTC)
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A song doesn't have to be 'big' or loud to be epic. For me, they have to convey a lot of emotion to be epic, or make you feel a certain way while you're listening to them. And that is, better than the ordinary songs you'd hear, after all, that's what EPIC means. I've found most people consider a song to be epic if it contains many singers for example, or has a string section in the background.

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#31 Posted : 04 February 2010 05:37:07(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
A song doesn't have to be 'big' or loud to be epic. For me, they have to convey a lot of emotion to be epic, or make you feel a certain way while you're listening to them. And that is, better than the ordinary songs you'd hear, after all, that's what EPIC means.


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1. An epic is a long book, poem, or film, whose story extends over a long period of time or tells of great events.
2. Something that is epic is very large and impressive.


I think you're thinking of Epic in the mad-for-it, wicked, radical, totally-bodacious, neat, transitory slang way. The kind of way that makes me want to slap people.
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#32 Posted : 04 February 2010 05:51:10(UTC)
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old.gregg wrote:
A song doesn't have to be 'big' or loud to be epic. For me, they have to convey a lot of emotion to be epic, or make you feel a certain way while you're listening to them. And that is, better than the ordinary songs you'd hear, after all, that's what EPIC means.


Does it?

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2. Something that is epic is very large and impressive.


I think you're thinking of Epic in the mad-for-it, wicked, radical, totally-bodacious, neat, transitory slang way. The kind of way that makes me want to slap people.


Pretty much what I was trying to point out.

For me, songs that are designed to sound epic in that traditional sense, aren't.
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#33 Posted : 04 February 2010 08:37:36(UTC)
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I didnt say all new music sucks, otherwise I wouldnt have come looking for good new music in the first place. ;)
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#34 Posted : 04 February 2010 09:24:22(UTC)
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I didnt say all new music sucks, otherwise I wouldnt have come looking for good new music in the first place. ;)

No, you said all new music that isn't just retreading old ground and thus of utterly no artistic value sucks.
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#35 Posted : 04 February 2010 10:22:14(UTC)
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No I said the new style sucks. Whatever though, I do think that music should have stayed the same as it used to be, if 20 bands could be famous in the 80s playing the same style does that make them just copying off each other? No, just like if a new band played the same style they would not be copying the old bands. Music style and band style are two different things, and I was referring to music style.
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#36 Posted : 04 February 2010 10:35:45(UTC)
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There is no "new" style. That's such a meaningless cop-out.
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#37 Posted : 04 February 2010 10:39:39(UTC)
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Sounds different to me. What would you rather me call it?
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#38 Posted : 04 February 2010 12:04:47(UTC)
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No, my point is that there are a whole range of styles. There is no single unifying feature, other than being music.
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#39 Posted : 04 February 2010 13:17:35(UTC)
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The way is all is done, is different than it used to be. You cant deny that.
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#40 Posted : 04 February 2010 21:31:16(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
The way is all is done, is different than it used to be. You cant deny that.


The way what is done? Recording? Sure, that's changed (and technically improved if creatively stagnated). Compositional style? That's changed with trends but the old style is still viable and alive. Still not sure what this "new style" is that you're talking about, who comes under such an umbrella, or why it's such a bad thing that popular music is no longer exactly the same as it was in the late 70s and 80s.
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