Its not meant to be funny, have you listen to Has Been? It is one of the most epic albums ever.

To be fair, Has Been is the one William Shatner album of some non-novelty artist merit. That being said, it's really Ben Folds with Shatner vocals and poetry. So get off your high horse.

Yes, epic is absolutely not the right word.

I'm Pro-Shatner, but realistically, Rocket Man is the only musical Shatner I want or need.


Man, it's the enthusiastic introduction that sells it...

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Surely it is funnier when you actually get the reference?

Well, not so much a reference as a rip-off.

I would say what Green Day did was perfect their pop rock shtick and develop some good old fashioned ambition. American Idiot is not something I'm interested in listening to, but I certainly think it could qualify, given its "concept album" status and the production of songs like Wake Me Up When September Ends and Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

Selling out is about more than being commercially successful. It's more about changing your sound or image with the inherent idea of making more cash, or perhaps abandoning independent music to become signed with a major label. Certainly the changes from Kerplunk to Dookie are miniscule compared to the change from Warning and American Idiot, on the whole. But I also think saying that the idea of Green Day selling out is kinda silly, you can't (or at least shouldn't) expect 40 year olds to be playing straight pop-punk which is a very teenage sorta type of music, and their music changed from Dookie to Insomniac and then had another change on Nimrod, and another on Warning. They were always evolving their sound in small ways.

First heard them in 2000 with Nimrod. But honestly, Dookie is probably my fave Green Day record. Also really like Insomniac. In a decade I've still to actually to hear their two indy releases from start to finish.

I can't even remember what my first CD album was. Actually I think I got two CDs the Christmas I got my first CD player, one was an indie/rock compilation that had stuff like Cornershop - Brimful of Asha, Stereophonics - A Thousand Trees, and bands like Shed 7 and it was where I first heard Iggy Pop. There was also a song from the Trainspotting soundtrack that was like a dance track with the whole Ewan McGregor "Choose Life" shitck being spoken over it, PF Project - Choose Life. But yeah, also got Urban Hymns by The Verve as far as I remember, so that must be 1997. Had quite a collection of cassettes before that though, first two Oasis albums, first two Cast albums, Supergrass' debut, four Blur albums, but the first full album I had on cassette was Michael Jackson's Thriller, though I also had a copy of Bad that my parents got from a friends kid. Aaaaah, nostalgia. Also had screeds of my folks home made compilations which must have taken ages to do, baring in mind that they were recording the songs onto tape off vinyl. Those were some fucking awesome compilations that I could as a kid, no wonder my taste now is so fucking great.

Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends would be the most recent "great" album I could think of.