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stephaniewazhere wrote:forkboy wrote:stephaniewazhere wrote: Why do people keep blaming JUST the Christians? It's not only Christian who are against Gays. There are MANY people who practice other religions who are against gays. There are people who aren't even religious and are against gays. There are EVEN people who are gay who go against gays! And the list goes on......
The main reason is because you, I, and the others in this thread live in countries where Christianity is the biggest religion, and where to a certain extent they grew up in Christian societies to one degree or another. It is easier to rage against what you know than what you are ignorant of. Really, the omni-prescence of Christianity in Western society makes it an easier target than other faiths. Easier and less contentious to attack the majority than a minority to be sure. Right, and what people don't think about is that Christianity is just a label for many people. A lot of people say they are Christian, yet they don't go to church or read the bible. Meaning they are not Christian. Also, They base their statistics off of a piece of paper where the person writes, circles or checks what religion they will fall in or the option that they are not religious. At least that's what I was told. I'm not sure if that's 100% true. Most of the people who I know hate gays aren't Christian. Most Christians I know don't HATE gays, they just don't accept it. Accepting and hating someone is two very different things. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that people seem to just blame Christians and that is just spreading more hate and defeating the purpose of "love". As corny as that sounds. Christianity is easy to blame because as forkboy said it is what most Westerners know. Also, the bible is clear that any homosexuality is a sin (as Gildermershina pointed out, anything that isn't procreational sex between man and wife is technically a sin) sharinganerror wrote:Forkboy, your points are sound but, are you gay? I mean, if you were.. could you honestly say to yourself that you've never had a sexual thought about any female before in your life up until your "revelation". To be serious, I doubtany little kid has grown up attracted to boys, rather he chose his preference in the midst of his adolescence at the youngest. Of course there are several arguments to my point, but I'm just throwing that out there again. forkboy wrote:No, I'm a heterosexual, just for the record. And I never made any decision, concious or sub-concious, to be attracted to women. Nor do I make a choice of which women I am attracted to. But to counter your point, it's not completely unknown for straight men to have a sexual thought about another man, especially in those odd years of adolecence. So no, I can't say I particularly agree that thinking about a girl once and what she'd look like naked would suddenly disprove your sexuality. And aside from it all, the current thought in sexual psychology is that quite a lot of people are not 100% straight or 100% gay (which isn't to say that someone 90% straight will actually have sex with another man), it just seems that human sexuality does not exist in a binary state, there are plenty of bisexuals. That does not instantly disprove that homosexuality is a naturally occuring event.
I have spoken to gays and lesbians, I've read comments they've made and not one has ever declared "I chose to be this way." The only choice that appears to exist is whether to be honest with yourself and admit your sexuality, or to live a life in denial. Like numerous politicians over the years. Wait, if you never made the choice to be attracted to women, then how are you straight? Couldn't you just be a homosexual falsely having relations with the opposite sex? If a supposed straight man had a sexual thought about another man, that leaves room for questioning. How can someone be a % of a sexual orientation? Shouldn't you just go ahead and profess that they're all bisexual. Preference in terms of sexuality means shit when there's still a small part rooting for the other team. Fucking explain to me why the hell do these politicians and celebrities and whoever the fuck get married, have kids, and then years later come out? Someone has to be lying because if they were really in denial the entire time, then they should feel ashamed for the pain they've caused those involved. Actually, Alfred Kinsey did extensive research into sexuality and came up with the concept of everyone being at least a little bisexual. Basically no one is 100% gay or 100% straight, but somewhere in between. Some people may be closer to one end or another or in the middle but they all have a little bit. For example, Brad Pitt is an attractive man, I am sure most men, including you, would agree with me on that point. We can recognize the attractiveness of someone of the same sex, that doesn't mean I am turned on by him, nor does that mean I would have sex with him or any other man. However, how can I be 100% pure testosterone hetero if I can recognize the attractiveness of another man? Edited by user 07 September 2010 19:12:56(UTC)
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