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Offline The Nimrods  
#41 Posted : 09 June 2009 09:41:21(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
forkboy wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
forkboy wrote:
Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.


Ok do not bash Cliff it's bad enough he's dead.I hope you mean his soloing style made him a "bad guitarist" but Cliff was brilliant.


I'm not saying Cliff was bad, I'm saying people who follow in his footsteps and replicate his style often are, because Cliff's approach wasn't anything like a traditional bass player. If you take a Cliff Burton bass solo, you could pretty much play it on a downtuned guitar and it'd sound the same. And he seemed to introduce to a generation the idea that bassists could do solos, and by solos I mean guitar solos on a bass. The last thing the world needs is more wanky guitar solos.


Cliff only has 1 solo that can be considered "Wanky" and that's Anesthesia which isn't really a song just an extended solo.His bass solos on "Orion" and "The Call of Ktulu" aren't wanky, they sound like interludes, except the one on what I would consider the "chorus" of Orion which doesn't really sound wanky but does sound like a guitar.


The part at the begging isn't wanking, that's just a couple notes, more like a progression from :28 to 1:00. The part at 1:43 is the only one that sounds like a guitar and that's pretty damn catchy. And last the one at 4:05 is just a nice peaceful trippy interlude.
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Davey Matlock- Bass,Guitars,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Kit Saunders- Drums,additional percussion
Jaska Latvala- Rhythm Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Jack Burton- Keyboards,Keytar

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Celt-Drums
Saxon-Lead Guitar
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I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

Offline The Nimrods  
#42 Posted : 09 June 2009 09:55:16(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
forkboy wrote:
TheCDs wrote:
forkboy wrote:
Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.


Ok do not bash Cliff it's bad enough he's dead.I hope you mean his soloing style made him a "bad guitarist" but Cliff was brilliant.

You are missing what he and aye are saying. People directly aping the styles of people with relatively unique styles, like Burton's bass solo style, is fucking shit.

Although Paul isn't a fan of Cliff Burton and he has complained to me about his style before now. But then he loaths guitar solos (especially metal ones) so it seems logical he'd dislike bass soloing in guitar style.

Oh and much more importantly, jolly good news on Ruins. I'm quite looking forward to that then. Will be interesting to hear his new album.


When I play bass, part of my influence is from Cliff but I don't mean bass solos seeing as I don't do them, but his general playing lots of people would want to sound like ,not his solos but some of the songs have the most brilliant parts, like in "The Four Horsemen" his line for the chorus is amazing.The the side of Cliff I would want to emulate.
The Nimrods (Progressive Death Metal,Progressive Metal,Progressive Rock.Think Opeth/Dream Theater/Tool/Pink Floyd)
Jimmy Him- Lead Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Davey Matlock- Bass,Guitars,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Kit Saunders- Drums,additional percussion
Jaska Latvala- Rhythm Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Jack Burton- Keyboards,Keytar

Satyr in the Frost(Melodic Black Metal,think Satyricon/Mayhem/Early Dimmu Borgir/Immortal)
Sigmund-Vocals and Rhythm guitar
Celt-Drums
Saxon-Lead Guitar
Sauron-Keyboard
Gris-Bass
Rincewind wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

xNightsidex wrote:
Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

UserPostedImage

Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

Offline Vampiro  
#43 Posted : 11 June 2009 08:25:17(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?
Offline tension101  
#44 Posted : 11 June 2009 08:34:58(UTC)
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Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?

Red hot chili peppers' bassist.
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Offline Vampiro  
#45 Posted : 11 June 2009 08:41:31(UTC)
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tension101 wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?

Red hot chili peppers' bassist.


Lol I don't know much about loser bands.

Edited by user 11 June 2009 08:43:03(UTC)  | Reason: I guess i added an extra word.

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#46 Posted : 11 June 2009 09:00:25(UTC)
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Offline forkboy  
#47 Posted : 11 June 2009 09:30:56(UTC)
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Vampiro wrote:
tension101 wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?

Red hot chili peppers' bassist.


Lol I don't know much about loser bands.

Are you nine?
Offline Vampiro  
#48 Posted : 12 June 2009 02:38:46(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
tension101 wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?

Red hot chili peppers' bassist.


Lol I don't know much about loser bands.

Are you nine?

?
Offline forkboy  
#49 Posted : 12 June 2009 03:16:14(UTC)
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Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
tension101 wrote:
Vampiro wrote:
forkboy wrote:


Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


Who or what is flea?

Red hot chili peppers' bassist.


Lol I don't know much about loser bands.

Are you nine?

?

Saying "I don't know much about loser bands" is a rather immature thing to come out with. So I'm asking if you are actually nine years old, or are just acting like a nine year old.
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