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Offline Raphaela  
#1 Posted : 10 June 2009 11:41:31(UTC)
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Like on the old board.
Do you think it's right, wrong...? Veganism is too radical? You like McDonald's way too much to stop?
State your thoughts. I, obviously, will defend vegetarianism :P
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Offline Captain Insano  
#2 Posted : 10 June 2009 11:48:43(UTC)
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I dont look at it as right or wrong..just someones choice on what they feel is right for them
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Offline Gildermershina  
#3 Posted : 10 June 2009 11:53:36(UTC)
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I eat meat.

I feel that meat is treated too glibly in most cultures. More aboriginal cultures like Inuit and Native Americans teach that the animal is sacred and you must accept that you have taken a life to feed yourself, and respect the animal accordingly by not being wasteful. A bit of that respect would be healthy for us to take on board.
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Offline Raphaela  
#4 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:07:51(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
I eat meat.

I feel that meat is treated too glibly in most cultures. More aboriginal cultures like Inuit and Native Americans teach that the animal is sacred and you must accept that you have taken a life to feed yourself, and respect the animal accordingly by not being wasteful. A bit of that respect would be healthy for us to take on board.



If animals were treated on a good way, I wouldn't have much problem on eating some of them. Mostly they have horrible lives and humans kill them on a sadist way.
The add of hormones on the animals is also a thing that made me stay away of meat.
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Offline Chimp Records  
#5 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:13:05(UTC)
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Well, we need protein. No other good alternatives. Plus, meat tastes good. But I understand vegetarians.
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Offline Raphaela  
#6 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:15:11(UTC)
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Chimp Records wrote:
Well, we need protein. No other good alternatives. Plus, meat tastes good. But I understand vegetarians.


Soy?
And yes, meat does taste good, although I found alternatives.
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Offline Chimp Records  
#7 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:24:24(UTC)
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Raphaela wrote:
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Well, we need protein. No other good alternatives. Plus, meat tastes good. But I understand vegetarians.


Soy?
And yes, meat does taste good, although I found alternatives.


Lactose intolerant people can't have soy.
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Offline Raphaela  
#8 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:26:30(UTC)
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What does milk has to do with soy?
As far as I know, soy milk is a good alternative for lactose intolerant people.
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Offline Chimp Records  
#9 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:33:35(UTC)
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Raphaela wrote:
What does milk has to do with soy?
As far as I know, soy milk is a good alternative for lactose intolerant people.


Shut up okay! :(
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Offline Captain Insano  
#10 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:35:33(UTC)
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Raphaela wrote:
Chimp Records wrote:
Well, we need protein. No other good alternatives. Plus, meat tastes good. But I understand vegetarians.


Soy?
And yes, meat does taste good, although I found alternatives.


Soy is fucking rank
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Offline Raphaela  
#11 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:37:15(UTC)
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Shut up okay! :(


I'm just debating, chill out.
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Offline Raphaela  
#12 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:39:32(UTC)
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Captain Insano wrote:
Soy is fucking rank


Haha everyone tells me that!
I love everything made with soy, nuggets, hamburguers, sausages, milk...
I pay the double of a meat-made product but it's not like I have another choice (and continue to not eat meat).
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Offline Chimp Records  
#13 Posted : 10 June 2009 12:39:57(UTC)
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Shut up okay! :(


I'm just debating, chill out.


I was baby crying. lol I wasn't that mad. That was like baby crying. lol
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Offline mouj  
#14 Posted : 10 June 2009 18:01:22(UTC)
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I've been vegetarian for a month once or twice, but I can't stay away from KFC and Nandos...
Let's put it this way: Imagine that another animal, let's say deer, had evolved the skills to become the dominant race and we had become an under race. The only reason we became the top race and evolved into sentients is because we could kill. If deer had evolved the skills to kill, and to handle weapons, then we would be an under race, and we wouldn't of evolved from monkeys. We may of been able to walk a little, but not much. Do you like the image of a deer feasting on a human? No. That's one reason that I became a vegetarian; I though to myself: "It could be YOU!"
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Offline Gildermershina  
#15 Posted : 10 June 2009 19:46:22(UTC)
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mouj wrote:
but I can't stay away from KFC and Nandos...


I don't get the popularity of KFC at all. For a chicken chain, their chicken is some of the most disgusting chicken I've ever tasted.
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#16 Posted : 10 June 2009 19:49:10(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
mouj wrote:
but I can't stay away from KFC and Nandos...


I don't get the popularity of KFC at all. For a chicken chain, their chicken is some of the most disgusting chicken I've ever tasted.


But how they enhance it... Yummos!
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Offline Rincewind  
#17 Posted : 10 June 2009 21:52:49(UTC)
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as long as your happy and comfortable with the idea of having to kill an animal yourself to get the meat, i see no problem with it at all... If your not prepared to kill it, you have no right to eat it...
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
Offline Gildermershina  
#18 Posted : 10 June 2009 22:04:38(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
as long as your happy and comfortable with the idea of having to kill an animal yourself to get the meat, i see no problem with it at all... If your not prepared to kill it, you have no right to eat it...


I'm so meek I'm not comfortable with the idea of killing an animal myself, I'm one of those guys who'll spend ten minutes trying to catch a spider to put it out the window rather than kill it. I don't think it's realistic to expect people to be cool with killing things. I'd hate to fly a plane, but I'll fly in one. What I am willing to accept is that animals are murdered for my well-being, and I'm too much of a townmouse to do it myself.
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#19 Posted : 11 June 2009 00:31:11(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
Rincewind wrote:
as long as your happy and comfortable with the idea of having to kill an animal yourself to get the meat, i see no problem with it at all... If your not prepared to kill it, you have no right to eat it...


I'm so meek I'm not comfortable with the idea of killing an animal myself, I'm one of those guys who'll spend ten minutes trying to catch a spider to put it out the window rather than kill it. I don't think it's realistic to expect people to be cool with killing things. I'd hate to fly a plane, but I'll fly in one. What I am willing to accept is that animals are murdered for my well-being, and I'm too much of a townmouse to do it myself.


i disagree, i think if you are going to eat meat, you have to be aware that it used to be alive, and died just so you could have a meal. You need to know where that meat came from, not just think that it is a blob of red stuff that appears from nowhere. A part of that in my opinion is that you should be comfortable with the idea of it dying for your food, and that if you were put in a possition where it was kill an animal to eat or not eat and maybe starve etc etc, you would kill it. Otherwise its insulting to the animal that died for your food.
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#20 Posted : 11 June 2009 02:55:54(UTC)
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Rincewind wrote:
A part of that in my opinion is that you should be comfortable with the idea of it dying for your food, and that if you were put in a possition where it was kill an animal to eat or not eat and maybe starve etc etc, you would kill it. Otherwise its insulting to the animal that died for your food.


Lol. Really? Insulting?

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