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Offline old.gregg  
#21 Posted : 08 June 2009 06:53:40(UTC)
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Play bass, there aren't enough bassists this generation. Too many drummers and guitarists.


Don't forget singers.....and dancers. uuuuhhhhhh....


GOOD singers and dancers would be an apt correction.

Though both are scarce round here.

I considered doing AS Dance for a time, but never bothered.


And the rarest are Good Dancing Singers.Mainly Micheal Jackson impersonators.


Like Holly Steel *pahaha*?
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#22 Posted : 08 June 2009 16:33:29(UTC)
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I got this new, baby blue (ugh) Fender Squier P-Bass with aged wood. I win.
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#23 Posted : 08 June 2009 17:54:40(UTC)
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Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

But more on topic, I play bass and have been for a while (double bass for about 9 years, bass guitar for about 6 years) and its really a personal preference thing. You won't necessarily have the spotlight on you all that often, you may get an occasional solo or feature spot, but if you play well you will be the driving force of the band. You will set the foundation for the guitar and vocals when they play/sing their notes and will work with the drummer to keep the rhythm and time constant. In general it ends up being a thankless job more often than not.
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Offline forkboy  
#24 Posted : 08 June 2009 20:02:45(UTC)
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Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.
Offline Gildermershina  
#25 Posted : 08 June 2009 20:46:16(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
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forkboy wrote:
Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.
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#26 Posted : 08 June 2009 21:18:50(UTC)
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Flea is great. Bag him and die.
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#27 Posted : 08 June 2009 21:34:39(UTC)
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mouj wrote:
Flea is great. Bag him and die.


Hey, nothing against the guy, but you know, kids think he's the only good bassist in the world. What about Sasaki Hisashi? Nobody's heard of him. Guy plays what sounds like guitar parts, at the same time as bass parts, on one bass guitar. Not that everyone should be doing that, but you know, he's fast without just going slappity-slappity-slap-slap.
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#28 Posted : 08 June 2009 21:39:58(UTC)
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I don't think he's the only bassist in the world. I just think he's the best in the world.
I'm also not that mad on slap, and like things like Under the Bridge which isn't slap but is fast.
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#29 Posted : 08 June 2009 21:57:07(UTC)
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What's so great about Flea?
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#30 Posted : 08 June 2009 22:18:00(UTC)
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He's really fast and he gives bassists a good name. Most bassists are really reserved and never take the front, but Flea gets as much attention, if not more, than John Frusciante.
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#31 Posted : 08 June 2009 22:25:50(UTC)
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In mainstream music maybe, but that's what I mean. Kids ascribe things to Flea that aren't really true. I mean, Claypool's bass work is the lead instrument in almost all of Primus, and Primus are hardly underground.
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#32 Posted : 09 June 2009 00:51:47(UTC)
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mouj wrote:
Flea is great. Bag him and die.

Copy Flea is by this point in time a sad cliché. The bass can be a glorious instrument, but people who play like Flea are dull, because so many bassists wish they were Flea. I mean I can understand why, as you say Flea is better known than the guitarist, which is rare. But what works in the RHCP won't neccessarily work for every band, and so many people who try to be Flea just end up running amok over the music. Which is dull.
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#33 Posted : 09 June 2009 04:13:40(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
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Flea is great. Bag him and die.


Hey, nothing against the guy, but you know, kids think he's the only good bassist in the world. What about Sasaki Hisashi? Nobody's heard of him. Guy plays what sounds like guitar parts, at the same time as bass parts, on one bass guitar. Not that everyone should be doing that, but you know, he's fast without just going slappity-slappity-slap-slap.


Exactly. It's just because Flea is overpublicised, then people such as Les Claypool and Cliff Burton have enough attention to steal the limelight. It really is a shame when people in more underrated bands of more experimental genre have a lot more diversity and talent to their style.
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#34 Posted : 09 June 2009 04:24:07(UTC)
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That's about the best short video I can find featuring Sasaki Hisashi. I still don't quite understand how humans are capable of playing music like that. He is very probably the best "technical" bassist I've come across, and the drummer... Mind boggling.
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#35 Posted : 09 June 2009 05:12:38(UTC)
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I play Bass. Got a pretty good library of songs now.
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#36 Posted : 09 June 2009 05:33:01(UTC)
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Ruins are fucking badass. I'm still grateful for you introducing them to me by using their Tzomborgha album as my alarm clock one morning in your old Sauchiehall Street flat.
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#37 Posted : 09 June 2009 07:04:47(UTC)
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Ruins are fucking badass. I'm still grateful for you introducing them to me by using their Tzomborgha album as my alarm clock one morning in your old Sauchiehall Street flat.


Hah, I remember that. Good news then sir, Ipecac are apparently releasing the new Ruins album, which seems odd considering Ruins is now Ruins Alone without a bassist. But hey, at least it'll be easier to get hold of.
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#38 Posted : 09 June 2009 07:49:37(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
forkboy wrote:
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Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.


Ok do not bash Cliff it's bad enough he's dead.I hope you mean his soloing style made him a "bad guitarist" but Cliff was brilliant.
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#39 Posted : 09 June 2009 09:00:15(UTC)
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Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.


Ok do not bash Cliff it's bad enough he's dead.I hope you mean his soloing style made him a "bad guitarist" but Cliff was brilliant.

You are missing what he and aye are saying. People directly aping the styles of people with relatively unique styles, like Burton's bass solo style, is fucking shit.

Although Paul isn't a fan of Cliff Burton and he has complained to me about his style before now. But then he loaths guitar solos (especially metal ones) so it seems logical he'd dislike bass soloing in guitar style.

Oh and much more importantly, jolly good news on Ruins. I'm quite looking forward to that then. Will be interesting to hear his new album.

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#40 Posted : 09 June 2009 09:29:17(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
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Well that's a hard question to answer. Do you want to play bass guitar?

Because if yes I'd say it's worth it. The bass can be an awesome sounding instrument. And pretty much every band needs a bass player too.

Just don't try to sound like Flea, please?


What's wrong with Flea, the man is a talented bass player.

So many bass players want to sound like him or Les Claypool. Because I guess they have a prominent role in their particular band. But that's boring. The bass is about much more than that.


I wouldn't say there's many following in the steps of Les Claypool, but Flea certainly. That being said, most bass players seem to just be bad guitarists. I think Cliff Burton is the real culprit for that one.


Ok do not bash Cliff it's bad enough he's dead.I hope you mean his soloing style made him a "bad guitarist" but Cliff was brilliant.


I'm not saying Cliff was bad, I'm saying people who follow in his footsteps and replicate his style often are, because Cliff's approach wasn't anything like a traditional bass player. If you take a Cliff Burton bass solo, you could pretty much play it on a downtuned guitar and it'd sound the same. And he seemed to introduce to a generation the idea that bassists could do solos, and by solos I mean guitar solos on a bass. The last thing the world needs is more wanky guitar solos.
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