Eh, well sometimes it's singing. Sometimes it's growling, grunting, moaning, shouting or sometimes screaming. There is ENERGY at metal gigs. That's the point, I mean it's an entirely different atmosphere, it's kind of aggressive, so long as the music is tight (& obviously you like it) you are too busy either headbanging or moshing or just listening to the music to need to watch the band do anything on stage.

But then I take the view point that music is about the music rather than any ancillary stuff around the music.

Of course, what are moshing and headbanging if not a form of dance?

There's a reason why Exodus wrote a song called The Toxic Waltz

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Dancing can add a lot to a show. James for example. Tim Booth is the best performer I have ever seen - his dancing makes such as Shakira look like a total beginner. (I'm not saying that Shakira can't dance, because she can, and pretty damn well too - but Tim is in an entirely different league.) He also sings live, every time, usually ad-libbing on at least two or three songs. The stage effects are nothing like Britney's, but there's always some megaphones and crazy lighting (and on more recent tours, Andy, the trumpeter, does the raised platform thing in a pink dress with a bit of dancing, just because he can), and improvised audience interaction, enough to keep me happy.

I've also done a bit of dancing every time I've sung, still singing live. Mainly because I'm crap at keeping still, I can dance - and I'd rather make myself look good than just stand there doing, ahem, shoegaze :P and looking nervous because I'm not moving. I don't know if Britney feels this way, I didn't get the job as her PR. :( (Only Stacy, and maybe Gemma, will know what I'm on about.) I did like Britney's Circus show, I'll admit, because I like dancing and stage effects, I love it when an artist can really put on a show as well as the music, even if it's just through interaction (eg. All Time Low - I loved the way Alex, erm, threatened the crowd, shame it was an empty threat, haha). But I just wish that Britney did sing live a little more often, because the music should come first every time.

Are metal shows crap? Yes, in my opinion. Too loud and potentially painful. I've been in a moshpit before, and despite the hot guy who began a v. short relationship with me by asking, "will you mosh with me?", I hated it. I've seen some brill rock/indie/pop-rock artists, but moshpits? Not mah thang. ;) I'll stick to studio versions of metal songs.

Well Britney has just recently added a new song on her tour which is sung live so at least you have a small part in the show that is live and is also proof that she can sing live. I enjoyed the show more than others that I've seen who have sang live so it doesn't really bother me. Her dancing, the effects and the overall show was amazing (I wouldn't have seen it live twice for nothing!)

That's not true!! a lot of Britney Spear's song relate to her daily life, even "Kill The Lights". Do you ever study the life of a huge pop artist.
Its all part being an artist, people have a vision and that vision reflects themselves. When does it matter anyway if its real or not. Music is meant to entertain you in some way otherwise what's the point of it. No one's music is 100% real. If you are singing about loving Dragons, are dragons real? no. But the story within the song is about loving which is real.


The point here is I think Dance songs shouldn't require you to sing.

With your shit taste you WANT to believe this. Ofcourse music can be 100% real. Its just that your kind of music is not 100% real, its maybe 10% real. Why dont you show some interest in in modern popular music history. You have no idea. You dont no a fuck about music. You hate music.

Well that's an odd statement. Totally fallacious too. Are fantasy lyrics real? Of course not. That doesn't prove that no music is real. There's a difference between corny love songs and music from the heart, which absolutely does exist.

Oh please, just shut up. I know your "trying" to make me look bad about what I listen to, but what I listen to is good music to the ear and your piece of shit music would never be good enough to be compared to mine.

Time for me to step in. This is a totally preposterous statement, and the hypocrisy can be seen a mile away. Despite stating numerous times throughout the forum, in your defense, that the above is in fact "your opinion", it's not so much an opinon as a logical falacy. You can't call someone else's music shit while at the same time proclaiming your taste is almighty. It's just not on. Especially when someone such as Bob Dylan, for example, has far more renowned credibility in musical history than any flavour-of-the-moment pop singer.

Well, same thing with him, he's calling my music (non-music) making his music even worse. This shit is funny as hell how can you say R&B/Pop isn't music but then say Metal is or whatever the hell he listens to. shit.