i'm sorry britney isn't a RECORDING artist. she is the pothole in the road. the engineer, producer, and marketing team who cover up the obstacle are the real talents.

britney might have gotten a writing credit as part of her contract, or as a marketing ploy from the label, but that doesn't mean she actually wrote the songs.

do you people have any clue how show business works?

Hairdresser actually. And cheers!

Though in seriousness, it's in the definition...

Performing Artist. She records. She is therefore, a recording artist. Can't argue with the definition.

EDIT: oh yeah, and I feel I should add, the addition of the my educational path was merely to emphasise that I have a fair clue about the industry side of things, alongside marketing, finance, and studio practice, which you likely wouldn't have a clue on as being the dinosaur you seem to be emphasising yourself as, you WOULDN'T have any idea of the industry past the days the world was in black in white.

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In which case, all the power to your sister then, but I doubt she dictates the in's and out's of the industry to you non-stop, especially in an era you seem to have so much disinterest and distate for.

My point still stands, have a fit about it as much as you please, but Britney Spears IS an artist, and has just as much right to be one as anyone else. Art is not discriminatory. People are discriminatory.

That's a ludicrous statement though. People listen to shit music, always have, always will. It's just that most people move on with their lives because music isn't that important to them, and so a lot of things fade into obscurity. The reason most people like songs is because of some novelty, some memorable hook or rhythm, and then they hear it over and over enough times for it to be stuck in their heads. They're not interested in the supposed artistic integrity of anything. The people who really love music, they will find good music in any and every era. Everyone else just ends up blowing away with the next wind.

thats a valid point, but in previous decades quality artists were frequently represented on the billboard top 40. i haven't looked at the charts in a while, but i doubt there is one respectable artist among them.

of course there has always been bad music, but mainstream music is at its lowest point in decades. i understand this may be seen as a mere opinion, but its an educated one. try comparing country music from the '70s to the garbage nashville is passing off today. this doesn't mean the industry didn't produce any crap in the '70s, nor does it mean steve earle isn't a viable artist today.

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that i agree with.

This one is for SpringChicken


Britney Spears IS an artist. Point blank period. Specifically a performing artist.

Artist (definition from wikipedia)- is wide-ranging and covers a broad spectrum of activities to do with creating art, practicing the arts and/or demonstrating an art.
Art (definition from wikipedia)- Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, sculpture, and paintings. The meaning of art is explored in a branch of philosophy known as aesthetics.
Musician (definition from wikipedia)- musician is a person who performs or writes music.

Now moving on to the mainstream talk. Just because a song is played a lot doesn't mean it is " shit". Some types of music does not appeal to everyone and just because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it isn't art or that it is "shit". Especially if you are raised in an urban area, your views on music could be completely different. Not all music is meant to have a special meaning anyway. A song does not need sarcasm or double meaning lyrics to be considered artistic. Also, if everyone listened or liked the same thing I think this would be a boring world. And it is true many music that is made don't have any thought in it or the song is digitally processed. Music is evolving, if you wanna get stuck in the past good for you but don't come bashing on the younger generation just because the music doesn't appeal to you.
Get an I-pod. <--Good tip.

Britney Spears has had a huge impact in my life musically and that's why I respect her and I call her an artist. And I am a fan and I do buy her music and I like to talk about it thats why I made a thread. If music genres were to be segregated in this forum, no one would be on this forum. So what is the problem? Why is her music doing to you that is getting you all worked up?

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She's looking great, can't wait for the premiere tomorrow, so excited. :D

Anyone else noticing the recent (not that recent really) pop trend for songs to not have melodies so much as tiny micro-melodies spread in between long sections of monotone, in amongst bleeping beeping synth noises and ultra-dry clicky hip hop drum samples?

i guess we define art differently, because i don't see anything creative about what she does. its purely derivative crap thats been done to death. i seriously doubt britney spears has any creative control. she is simply a marionette, manipulated by those behind the scenes whose interest is dollars and not art; but i'll concede this one to you, and refer to her from now on as a BAD artist.