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Mt. Epic wrote:Gemma375* wrote:Mt. Epic wrote:Yep, that's right. They are releasing yet another album by the grunge gods (which really means nothing) called Nirvana:Live at Reading, which is a live recording of their Reading performance (hence the name) many millions of years ago. This is just pissing me off. I'm not much of a Nirvana fan, but I'm just saying that the band has been dead for almost two decades now. They have already released like twenty box sets, digged up some shitty demos to release, and have fucked up their compilations of greatest songs about a million times now. I mean, those guys had only one hit, and a couple of other moderately successful songs. I mean cmon! They only had three studio albums! Why do you need a billion box sets! Their album Nevermind, sold roughly 16 million copies worldwide. Okay I understand that is a successful album. But the follow-up, In Utero, sold only about 1/3 of that that. 5 million copies, yeah that's a good number, but not worth to have parades and fireworks go off at every major city in the world just to show that BAM!!! These guys went 5x platinum! Coldplay's first album Parachutes, if I'm not mistaken, sold about that amount, and the band wasn't considered to be amazing until "Viva La Vida" was released, and before had already had many other fairly big hits. I have the balls to call them one-hit wonders! "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is the only song people can recognize. Other smaller songs have SOME fame, but not enough to be considered monster hits. "Heart-Shaped Box", almost nobody heard of until Rock Band. Everything else had fairly moderate success. So I don't understand the big hype. Is it because they were the first breakthrough Grunge act? Is it because of Kurt Cobain's and Courtney Love's relationship? I mean, Dave Grohl has separated himself from the whole grunge thing in three albums, and could've been the first if only Foo Fighters were more organized from the start. So all I gotta say is: Cmon People! The entire thing with Nirvana wasn't about how many records they sold, it was about the effect their music had, and is still having, on the people that did hear it. It really pisses me off when people use sales figures to talk about how good a piece of music is meant to be. I mean, Cheryl Cole has the #1 album and single in the UK at the moment... wow, it must sure be a classic... A good album is something that connects with its target audience - regardless of size - and makes them feel emotions that others can't. Some of the best albums of all time, in my opinion, have been albums that have been well ahead of their time - thought of as a bit of a failure at the time and its only decades later that people discover just how great the music actually was. Music doesn't die just because the lead singer does... Yes, I completely agree with that. But my point is why is there 20 different box sets/compilations from only 3 studio albums? Certainly it's ridiculous that there's been so much exploitation of the band's name since Cobain's death, but the fact is that Nirvana still have a credibility and a legacy that means they know this stuff will sell. It's the same reason any classic artist has so many greatest hits releases put out over the years. These compilations are only designed to sell over the course of a Christmas, maybe tailing along for a year, then a couple of years later they'll put out a new one that's a fresh new product for people who missed the last one. Some of them are rushed together, some of them are of dubious authenticity, but some of them get given good treatment, with remixed or remastered material, and unreleased material dug up from the archives. Of course, if you look at older bands, the current example of note being King Crimson, they reissue their entire catalogue repeatedly. It's not so that they sell the same stuff over and over to the fans, it's so that the catalogue stays in print. In the case of King Crimson, their catalogue up to the mid 90s was remastered at the start of the millennium and put out on Virgin, who then held the rights to it. Then band-leader Robert Fripp managed to get all the rights to the entire catalogue, so those same editions were now quietly put out by his label Discipline Global Mobile, so that once the Virgin ones vanished from shelves, these versions would replace them. This year Steven Wilson from Porcupine Tree stepped in to produce 40th anniversary editions with surround sound mixes, and even new stereo mixes where Fripp was not happy with the originals. Some people (myself included) will end up with duplicate albums from these various reissues, but these are the best and most definitive versions yet, that will replace permanently the previous editions. What I'm getting at here is they will keep releasing new compilations and boxed sets as soon as the old ones stop selling, and it's not because there's more stuff for old fans to hear, it's because there's new fans all the time, and they always want to have new stuff to promote and sit on the shelf for each new "generation" of fan. It's the same with any business. Dyson's standard vacuum cleaner has been improved with new technologies over the years, so a model you bought last year might be marginally less good than the one you could have bought this year... But if it was the same, they wouldn't be able to sell it with "The new Dyson with state of the art Supersuck Technology - nobody sucks harder than a Dyson!" |