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User is suspended until 16/05/4760 03:38:29(UTC) stephaniewazhere  
#21 Posted : 21 January 2010 02:16:33(UTC)
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With no shock whatsoever I probably would be considered a Dance-Pop artist. I make music that reflects my vision like when most artist and whoever calls me a sellout, I'll just laugh at them while I'm faning my self with all the hundred bills I'm making by just doing what I love.


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#22 Posted : 21 January 2010 07:07:03(UTC)
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If you do what you like not because of the money you're not a sellout.If you do what you don't like just to make money then you're a sellout.
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The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#23 Posted : 21 January 2010 09:01:40(UTC)
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I'd do whatever comes to me at the time and sounds right I guess. Right now all I can seem to write are songs that sound like a bastard son of Pantera and Alice In Chains, which isn't a bad thing.
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#24 Posted : 21 January 2010 09:16:05(UTC)
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I thought Pantera was a bastard child of Alice In Chains and Motley Crue, which renders your songs useless because they're incest
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#25 Posted : 21 January 2010 09:22:54(UTC)
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Eh, throw in KISS, Slayer and Van Halen and we may be talking, but last time I checked, thats an odd number, rendering it impossible and therefore your previous comment useless.
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#26 Posted : 21 January 2010 09:28:21(UTC)
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You could always throw in 3 more bands, which will make Pantera the bastard grandchild of Black Sabbath... or something, therefore your previous comment is useless Think
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#27 Posted : 21 January 2010 09:32:29(UTC)
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Unless it was one big orgy, in which case there is no proof they are even slightly related to Black Sabbath. I deem you useless.
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#28 Posted : 21 January 2010 11:25:48(UTC)
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You gotta admit they were influenced by Black Sababath, either directly or inderectly, thus for not recognizing it, you're useless
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#29 Posted : 21 January 2010 12:03:31(UTC)
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Paradox wrote:
You gotta admit they were influenced by Black Sababath, either directly or inderectly, thus for not recognizing it, you're useless


He's not useless that's stupid.You'd have to go Black Sabbath influenced Judas Priest and some random punk band who made Motorhead who made Venom who made Slayer
The Nimrods (Progressive Death Metal,Progressive Metal,Progressive Rock.Think Opeth/Dream Theater/Tool/Pink Floyd)
Jimmy Him- Lead Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Davey Matlock- Bass,Guitars,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Kit Saunders- Drums,additional percussion
Jaska Latvala- Rhythm Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Jack Burton- Keyboards,Keytar

Satyr in the Frost(Melodic Black Metal,think Satyricon/Mayhem/Early Dimmu Borgir/Immortal)
Sigmund-Vocals and Rhythm guitar
Celt-Drums
Saxon-Lead Guitar
Sauron-Keyboard
Gris-Bass
Rincewind wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#30 Posted : 22 January 2010 01:28:06(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
If you do what you like not because of the money you're not a sellout.If you do what you don't like just to make money then you're a sellout.


I know that, I know what a sell out is! But there are many people who are called sell outs in the industry, just because they upgraded their music.

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#31 Posted : 22 January 2010 01:50:20(UTC)
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stephaniewazhere wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
If you do what you like not because of the money you're not a sellout.If you do what you don't like just to make money then you're a sellout.


I know that! There are many people who are called sell outs in the industry, just because they upgraded their music.


I think the sellout thing comes with business decisions overrule musical or creative decisions, assuming of course musical and creative decisions were previously the driving force. In pop music, that's never been the case.

Pop is designed for target audiences from the ground up. Generic sentiments are preferable to specific ones so that the widest number of people can relate to them. Certain breakout stylistic shifts, originally adapted from underground influences, are utilised for a contemporary feel. But above all else, pop music relies on marketable gimmicks and hooks, those little things that make one song that much more recognisable. A strong melody, a funky rhythm, a strange word in the lyrics, a weird sound effect... Whatever it takes to be "that song with the..."

So you can accuse Metallica of selling out, but not, say, Britney Spears, because she was always a marketable product first and a recording artist second. You can say that Metallica betrayed their core principles, their core sound, their credibility and their integrity in search of big mainstream bucks, music videos, big hit singles etc. But then again, maybe that's just the music they wanted to make. Personally I think Death Magnetic is just as much of a cynical exploitation as any of their other albums of the past two decades, because they're relying on nostalgia to fill in the gaps, slavishly retreading ground that the hardcore fans think they want, which seems just as bad creatively as trying to appease the mass markets with melodic singles.

What was I talking about? Oh yeah... Pop artists only sell out once, the moment that they start their careers.

Also, Tool:

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#32 Posted : 22 January 2010 02:01:16(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
stephaniewazhere wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
If you do what you like not because of the money you're not a sellout.If you do what you don't like just to make money then you're a sellout.


I know that! There are many people who are called sell outs in the industry, just because they upgraded their music.


I think the sellout thing comes with business decisions overrule musical or creative decisions, assuming of course musical and creative decisions were previously the driving force. In pop music, that's never been the case.

Pop is designed for target audiences from the ground up. Generic sentiments are preferable to specific ones so that the widest number of people can relate to them. Certain breakout stylistic shifts, originally adapted from underground influences, are utilised for a contemporary feel. But above all else, pop music relies on marketable gimmicks and hooks, those little things that make one song that much more recognisable. A strong melody, a funky rhythm, a strange word in the lyrics, a weird sound effect... Whatever it takes to be "that song with the..."

So you can accuse Metallica of selling out, but not, say, Britney Spears, because she was always a marketable product first and a recording artist second. You can say that Metallica betrayed their core principles, their core sound, their credibility and their integrity in search of big mainstream bucks, music videos, big hit singles etc. But then again, maybe that's just the music they wanted to make. Personally I think Death Magnetic is just as much of a cynical exploitation as any of their other albums of the past two decades, because they're relying on nostalgia to fill in the gaps, slavishly retreading ground that the hardcore fans think they want, which seems just as bad creatively as trying to appease the mass markets with melodic singles.

What was I talking about? Oh yeah... Pop artists only sell out once, the moment that they start their careers.

Also, Tool:





Right! And one thing I relalized is that the whole point of me wanting to be a performing artists whether I want to accept it or not is to become famous. No fame = No game. And wanting fame is not bad thing. That doesn't mean my music wont be good or anything. That doesn't mean they can do what I can.

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#33 Posted : 22 January 2010 03:32:40(UTC)
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I can honestly say I have no idea why people want fame. Riches? Sure, I can understand. But fame sounds like an utter nightmare. Give me privacy any day.
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#34 Posted : 22 January 2010 03:38:46(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
I can honestly say I have no idea why people want fame. Riches? Sure, I can understand. But fame sounds like an utter nightmare. Give me privacy any day.


Pretty much. I hate the idea of being too famous to do anything, it'd be awful.
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#35 Posted : 22 January 2010 03:47:26(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
I can honestly say I have no idea why people want fame. Riches? Sure, I can understand. But fame sounds like an utter nightmare. Give me privacy any day.


Well, I don't know about that. Are you seriously telling me you wouldn't like to stand up the front of Wembley stadium and have the crowd singing to one of your lines that you wrote?

Hell yeah, even if the music was shit.
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#36 Posted : 22 January 2010 04:08:19(UTC)
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forkboy wrote:
I can honestly say I have no idea why people want fame. Riches? Sure, I can understand. But fame sounds like an utter nightmare. Give me privacy any day.


Well, I don't know about that. Are you seriously telling me you wouldn't like to stand up the front of Wembley stadium and have the crowd singing to one of your lines that you wrote?

Hell yeah, even if the music was shit.

Yes. I can't get up in front of a group of friends and sing. I'd hardly be likely to get up in front of 60,000 people to do so. I'm a quiet person who quite values his own anonymity.
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#37 Posted : 22 January 2010 05:36:12(UTC)
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Seeing as no Death Metal star is really famous I don't have to worry about that! yay! I highly doubt anyone followed Chuck Schuldiner around or that he was ever on a major magazine.For all we know Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy has a ton of sex tapes but no one knows because she plays metal.
The Nimrods (Progressive Death Metal,Progressive Metal,Progressive Rock.Think Opeth/Dream Theater/Tool/Pink Floyd)
Jimmy Him- Lead Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Davey Matlock- Bass,Guitars,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Kit Saunders- Drums,additional percussion
Jaska Latvala- Rhythm Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Jack Burton- Keyboards,Keytar

Satyr in the Frost(Melodic Black Metal,think Satyricon/Mayhem/Early Dimmu Borgir/Immortal)
Sigmund-Vocals and Rhythm guitar
Celt-Drums
Saxon-Lead Guitar
Sauron-Keyboard
Gris-Bass
Rincewind wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

xNightsidex wrote:
Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#38 Posted : 22 January 2010 05:42:44(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
Seeing as no Death Metal star is really famous I don't have to worry about that! yay! I highly doubt anyone followed Chuck Schuldiner around or that he was ever on a major magazine.For all we know Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy has a ton of sex tapes but no one knows because she plays metal.


Wut? :D
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#39 Posted : 22 January 2010 06:38:11(UTC)
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Laurelles1 wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
Seeing as no Death Metal star is really famous I don't have to worry about that! yay! I highly doubt anyone followed Chuck Schuldiner around or that he was ever on a major magazine.For all we know Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy has a ton of sex tapes but no one knows because she plays metal.


Wut? :D


I'm saying, all these female celebrities like paris hilton and lindsay lohan have sex tapes and shit and technically angela gossow is famous but because she palys metal she not so huge that if she made one everyone would know in about 5 hours
The Nimrods (Progressive Death Metal,Progressive Metal,Progressive Rock.Think Opeth/Dream Theater/Tool/Pink Floyd)
Jimmy Him- Lead Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Davey Matlock- Bass,Guitars,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Kit Saunders- Drums,additional percussion
Jaska Latvala- Rhythm Guitar,Vocals,Primary Songwriter
Jack Burton- Keyboards,Keytar

Satyr in the Frost(Melodic Black Metal,think Satyricon/Mayhem/Early Dimmu Borgir/Immortal)
Sigmund-Vocals and Rhythm guitar
Celt-Drums
Saxon-Lead Guitar
Sauron-Keyboard
Gris-Bass
Rincewind wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

xNightsidex wrote:
Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

UserPostedImage

Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#40 Posted : 22 January 2010 07:22:30(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
Laurelles1 wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
Seeing as no Death Metal star is really famous I don't have to worry about that! yay! I highly doubt anyone followed Chuck Schuldiner around or that he was ever on a major magazine.For all we know Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy has a ton of sex tapes but no one knows because she plays metal.


Wut? :D


I'm saying, all these female celebrities like paris hilton and lindsay lohan have sex tapes and shit and technically angela gossow is famous but because she palys metal she not so huge that if she made one everyone would know in about 5 hours


Aw. :(
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