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Offline asdf  
#1 Posted : 03 February 2010 07:22:17(UTC)
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Why do people lose their accents when they sing? Ozzy can barely talk but he sings great. Foreign people dont even know what they are singing about, but they can sing english songs just like they were English themselves. English people also sound American when they sing...why?
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#2 Posted : 03 February 2010 07:33:29(UTC)
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Why do people lose their accents when they sing? Ozzy can barely talk but he sings great. Foreign people dont even know what they are singing about, but they can sing english songs just like they were English themselves. English people also sound American when they sing...why?


I guess English people are so bombarded with American music nowadays it's quite common for people to base their vocals off an American and just like doing an accent imitation they actually adjust and begin to sing like that, but about Ozzy I'd like to disagree with him singing great... ;)
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#3 Posted : 03 February 2010 08:12:48(UTC)
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i can't get shot of my Cumbrian accent...
I hate it when people see me at the supermarket and they are like:
Hey, what are you doing here?
and im just like:
Oh you know, hunting elephants
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#4 Posted : 03 February 2010 08:14:58(UTC)
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It is because actual proper singing is essentially accent-less. If you're not trained, then a lot of your accent creeps in. Not that one was is necessarily better than the other. But to be honest, I'm a little tired of hearing all these "we're not really trying" singers singing bland songs about bland things in various British accents. It's a stylistic thing, but they do as though it makes them more "real", more "honest", more "true to life", yet it sounds to my ears much more fake. Lily Allen is a perfect example of that, the accent is much stronger when she sings than when she speaks.
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#5 Posted : 03 February 2010 09:38:36(UTC)
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And Madonna and Green Day during the American Idiot era at least try to sound English.But actually Cody, in a lot of music people do sing with accents, Attila Csihar from Sunn O)))/Mayhem, most black metal singers in general actually.And Japanese people.
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#6 Posted : 03 February 2010 09:44:12(UTC)
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Some might be phonys, just pretending to be foreign or having an accent to gain attention.
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#7 Posted : 03 February 2010 09:59:28(UTC)
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Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.
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#8 Posted : 03 February 2010 10:27:38(UTC)
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Mt. Epic wrote:
Some might be phonys, just pretending to be foreign or having an accent to gain attention.


Yeah madonna
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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#9 Posted : 03 February 2010 10:57:30(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
Mt. Epic wrote:
Some might be phonys, just pretending to be foreign or having an accent to gain attention.


Yeah madonna


exactly my point, but she was really obvious. I'm talking about others. Like Ozzy, I have a feeling that he's actually a really good speaker, just it's more entertaining and amusing the way he speaks with to the public.
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#10 Posted : 03 February 2010 11:13:19(UTC)
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Mt. Epic wrote:
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Mt. Epic wrote:
Some might be phonys, just pretending to be foreign or having an accent to gain attention.


Yeah madonna


exactly my point, but she was really obvious. I'm talking about others. Like Ozzy, I have a feeling that he's actually a really good speaker, just it's more entertaining and amusing the way he speaks with to the public.


No no dude he's a 60 year old man who was wacked out on drugs for a good 30 years not to mention he's from birmingham I'm pretty sure he isn't faking.Plus Tony Iommi sorta talks like him too only you can understand him.
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I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

Offline troymazing  
#11 Posted : 03 February 2010 13:51:58(UTC)
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Let's keep Madonna's affectation out of the conversation please..
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#12 Posted : 03 February 2010 23:17:28(UTC)
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Let's keep Madonna's affectation out of the conversation please..


Come on Troy I know you worship her but you know it's true
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I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

Offline Gildermershina  
#13 Posted : 03 February 2010 23:19:25(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
And Madonna and Green Day during the American Idiot era at least try to sound English.But actually Cody, in a lot of music people do sing with accents, Attila Csihar from Sunn O)))/Mayhem, most black metal singers in general actually.And Japanese people.


I think a lot of that is language rather than actual accent. Of course a Japanese person singing in Japanese sounds Japanese. When they sing in English, often less so.
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#14 Posted : 03 February 2010 23:23:01(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
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And Madonna and Green Day during the American Idiot era at least try to sound English.But actually Cody, in a lot of music people do sing with accents, Attila Csihar from Sunn O)))/Mayhem, most black metal singers in general actually.And Japanese people.


I think a lot of that is language rather than actual accent. Of course a Japanese person singing in Japanese sounds Japanese. When they sing in English, often less so.


I meant in English it usually sounds pretty foreign

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Rincewind wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Oops I stumbled over and hit the "extend ban" button.

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

Offline Gildermershina  
#15 Posted : 03 February 2010 23:44:34(UTC)
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The Nimrods wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
And Madonna and Green Day during the American Idiot era at least try to sound English.But actually Cody, in a lot of music people do sing with accents, Attila Csihar from Sunn O)))/Mayhem, most black metal singers in general actually.And Japanese people.


I think a lot of that is language rather than actual accent. Of course a Japanese person singing in Japanese sounds Japanese. When they sing in English, often less so.


I meant in English it usually sounds pretty foreign


That's just because they can't speak good English.
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#16 Posted : 04 February 2010 01:23:41(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.

What did you expect?
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#17 Posted : 04 February 2010 03:54:34(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.


Thick how so? As in influenced?

I have my natural accent, combined with the influence of a lot of my youthful pop punk filled days, then the merge of that with Elliott Smith and Conor Oberst :3
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#18 Posted : 04 February 2010 03:58:21(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.


Thick how so? As in influenced?

I have my natural accent, combined with the influence of a lot of my youthful pop punk filled days, then the merge of that with Elliott Smith and Conor Oberst :3


Because unlike what most Americans assume the british accent is, you enunciate your R's and a few other letters that the stereotypical english accent excludes.
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I knew you'd be back! *cries*


now now, *hugs and steals wallet*

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Gildermershina wrote:
The Nimrods wrote:
xNightsidex wrote:
Sooo...

What's everyone else do in the real world?


Sell pot and jerk off

JK, or am i?


At the same time?


Rincewind wrote:
Synxhard wrote:
I don't believe in jeans...


well your shit out of luck because they believe in you.....

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#19 Posted : 04 February 2010 09:07:47(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.

What did you expect?


An accent, but there really wasnt one.
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#20 Posted : 04 February 2010 09:15:22(UTC)
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xNightsidex wrote:
asdf wrote:
Eh, I know. I was listening to the songs on Bikz and Lewis' myspace pages and noticed they didnt have as thick of an accent as I had expected, and that made me think of it.


Thick how so? As in influenced?

I have my natural accent, combined with the influence of a lot of my youthful pop punk filled days, then the merge of that with Elliott Smith and Conor Oberst :3


Because unlike what most Americans assume the british accent is, you enunciate your R's and a few other letters that the stereotypical english accent excludes.


A quirk; if ever I sing the word "can't", it ends up sounding irish :3
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