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Offline forkboy  
#61 Posted : 04 October 2009 21:58:43(UTC)
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I've Mostly Thought Of God Has.

A.) A Guy Who Overwatches The Game Of Life. You May Say "Oh That's Cruel That He Lets Innocent People Die." but If You Think About It. Those Innocent People Goto Heaven. A Place FAR better then Earth. So Maybe There Death Does it Into A Grand Scheme Which In Turn Causes Another Person Prosperity Or Something As Such.

No. These people MIGHT get into heaven. Of course, perhaps they are Christian & God is actually the God of Islam and thus they are utterly fucked for not following the right rules.

Ultimately God (if he exists, this whole topic is based on absolutely massive IF) of the Abrahamic religions is a cruel fucker because he gave us free will and then expected us not to use it. Now what the fuck was the point of that?
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#62 Posted : 05 October 2009 02:20:38(UTC)
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He gave us free will, so that we could make our own CHOICES and by those choices is how we will be judged in the end. You will not go to Hell for ONE sin alone, you will be judged on the sins AND good of your life and by that you will either go to Hell, or Heaven.
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#63 Posted : 05 October 2009 09:36:16(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
He gave us free will, so that we could make our own CHOICES and by those choices is how we will be judged in the end. You will not go to Hell for ONE sin alone, you will be judged on the sins AND good of your life and by that you will either go to Hell, or Heaven.


Is that so? Because the Bible doesn't say that. The bible says all sins are equal in the eyes of God.
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#64 Posted : 05 October 2009 10:23:59(UTC)
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Gildermershina wrote:
asdf wrote:
He gave us free will, so that we could make our own CHOICES and by those choices is how we will be judged in the end. You will not go to Hell for ONE sin alone, you will be judged on the sins AND good of your life and by that you will either go to Hell, or Heaven.


Is that so? Because the Bible doesn't say that. The bible says all sins are equal in the eyes of God.


Read This:

http://www.gracecentered...m/are_all_sins_equal.htm

The Old Testament tells us that God assigned different penalties to certain sins. This suggests that certain sins differ in seriousness. Under the Old Testament law, a thief paid restitution; an occult practitioner was cut off from Israel; one who committed adultery or a homosexual act was put to death.


If All Sins Were Equal Then Wouldn't The Punishment Be The Same?

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#65 Posted : 05 October 2009 10:31:56(UTC)
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They are, but I am saying that if you did 10 good things and 5 sins, then you would still get into Heaven. The sins may be equal but its like a balance board, and if the sins out weigh the good then it tips and you fall to Hell.
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#66 Posted : 05 October 2009 11:23:10(UTC)
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#67 Posted : 05 October 2009 22:28:18(UTC)
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They are, but I am saying that if you did 10 good things and 5 sins, then you would still get into Heaven. The sins may be equal but its like a balance board, and if the sins out weigh the good then it tips and you fall to Hell.

Of course, all of this is nonsense because the New Testament states that regardless of what sins you commit, so long as you repent and prostrate yourself before God you will be forgiven and let into Heaven.
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#68 Posted : 06 October 2009 02:20:41(UTC)
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blueothello wrote:
Gildermershina wrote:
asdf wrote:
He gave us free will, so that we could make our own CHOICES and by those choices is how we will be judged in the end. You will not go to Hell for ONE sin alone, you will be judged on the sins AND good of your life and by that you will either go to Hell, or Heaven.


Is that so? Because the Bible doesn't say that. The bible says all sins are equal in the eyes of God.


Read This:

http://www.gracecentered...m/are_all_sins_equal.htm

The Old Testament tells us that God assigned different penalties to certain sins. This suggests that certain sins differ in seriousness. Under the Old Testament law, a thief paid restitution; an occult practitioner was cut off from Israel; one who committed adultery or a homosexual act was put to death.


If All Sins Were Equal Then Wouldn't The Punishment Be The Same?



One of the great Biblical contradictions. The point is that all sins are equal in judgement rather than equal in punishment, meaning that if you confess and repent for one sin, say, murder, and yet do not repent for theft of a bread roll when you were starving, you're still to be punished. And what is the punishment of God? Evidently it is Hell. What other punishment is there? Getting into Heaven but not being allowed to go to the weekly disco?
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#69 Posted : 06 October 2009 02:46:33(UTC)
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A disco full of Christians. My word does that sound awful.

Also, I can't be bothered creating a new thread but hey

http://conservapedia.com...nservative_Bible_Project

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#70 Posted : 06 October 2009 04:40:26(UTC)
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American conservatives... It'd be funny if they weren't so abundant. I'm not sure if it should be an IQ test or what, but there should be some fair way of assessing a person's intelligence before letting them take power. No wonder the conservatives are so scared of intellectuals - they're so stupid they can't understand the arguments they're arguing against.
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#71 Posted : 06 October 2009 10:52:37(UTC)
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Nothing wrong with conservatism. However, add evangelical Christianity to it and you get yourself a whole bunch of retards.
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#72 Posted : 06 October 2009 11:05:36(UTC)
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Nothing wrong with conservatism. However, add evangelical Christianity to it and you get yourself a whole bunch of retards.

Nothing wrong with conservatism except the unwillingness for society to move on & progress. If everyone was a conservative we'd still be serfs.
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#73 Posted : 06 October 2009 12:19:12(UTC)
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I'm Conservative With Things Like Culture.
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#74 Posted : 06 October 2009 12:26:15(UTC)
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blueothello wrote:
I'm Conservative With Things Like Culture.


How's that?
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#75 Posted : 06 October 2009 14:07:33(UTC)
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Paradox wrote:
blueothello wrote:
I'm Conservative With Things Like Culture.


How's that?


Well Since I'm African American I Participate With Things At A Local College With African History and Culture. I'm Also A Fan Of America's Holidays(seeing As I Was Born Here) So I Annually Participate In Regular Culture Holidays(Christmas, Thanksgiving and 4th of July). I'm conservative with these things because I don't want them to change much. A Bit of Change With Holidays is Good Here and Then but Things Like Renaming and change of Purpose Are Where I Draw The Line.
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#76 Posted : 06 October 2009 22:18:14(UTC)
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blueothello wrote:
Paradox wrote:
blueothello wrote:
I'm Conservative With Things Like Culture.


How's that?


Well Since I'm African American I Participate With Things At A Local College With African History and Culture. I'm Also A Fan Of America's Holidays(seeing As I Was Born Here) So I Annually Participate In Regular Culture Holidays(Christmas, Thanksgiving and 4th of July). I'm conservative with these things because I don't want them to change much. A Bit of Change With Holidays is Good Here and Then but Things Like Renaming and change of Purpose Are Where I Draw The Line.


You like capital letters then ;)
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#77 Posted : 06 October 2009 23:10:17(UTC)
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#78 Posted : 07 October 2009 05:56:26(UTC)
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It's some sort of rebellion...


I'm Not Fully Conservative. Besides At My Age I Have Plenty Of Time To Decide My Stand On Politics.
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#79 Posted : 21 October 2009 20:46:04(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
They are, but I am saying that if you did 10 good things and 5 sins, then you would still get into Heaven. The sins may be equal but its like a balance board, and if the sins out weigh the good then it tips and you fall to Hell.

WRONG. Even the bible states that good works will never get you into heaven and it's by God's grace alone that you are saved. Please tell me what belief system you're following, because it seems like a sub-denomination of antinomianistic "Christians".
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#80 Posted : 21 October 2009 21:03:16(UTC)
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asdf wrote:
They are, but I am saying that if you did 10 good things and 5 sins, then you would still get into Heaven. The sins may be equal but its like a balance board, and if the sins out weigh the good then it tips and you fall to Hell.

WRONG. Even the bible states that good works will never get you into heaven and it's by God's grace alone that you are saved. Please tell me what belief system you're following, because it seems like a sub-denomination of antinomianistic "Christians".


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